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0bsessions:
Actually, that IS the correct pronunciation. The guys who did the animated series mispronounced it. When O'Neil created him, he envisioned it with a short a rather than the long used in the 90's cartoon.
thehoopiestfrood:
Actually there's huge debate over this, there are a lot of people who claim Denny O'Neil pronounces it Raish while others claim Raaas. From what I understand "Raish" is the correct Arabic pronunciation but I have also seen people argue that as well. From the evidence I've seen I would go with "Raish". There is also an episode in series 3 of Batman Beyond where Talia corrects Terry when he pronounces it "Raaas" which I think would be weird thing to do if they had been mispronouncing it all along.
0bsessions:
One could argue that that statement from Beyond was an in-joke on their potential mispronunciation.
There's a CBR column called "Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed" where they debunk and confirm various comic book shit. I'll have to look in there or submit the question. No one seems to be capable of a straight answer.
thehoopiestfrood:
http://comicgeekspeak.comicbookpage.com/cgs-episode062.mp3
An interview with Denny O'Neil where he says that it's "Raish" and that he got his daughter to check at a linguistics department at a university. He also says he could be wrong though. :P It also comes up that someone else at a comic panel thing said that Denny pronounced it "Raaas" but here he most definitely pronounces it "Raish". It's in like the first 10 minutes of the podcast.
Episode 62 from here: http://www.comicgeekspeak.com/episodes.asp
Ozymandias:
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 06 Sep 2007, 10:50 ---It removes the uniqueness of the character. Any dumb fuck can put on makeup and rob banks. He's just some everyday kook if he's putting on makeup. Plus, a big part of what drove him insane in almost every prior origin was the disfigurement.
--- End quote ---
I'll never understand vehement adherence to a particular continuity, I guess. If it acts like the Joker, laughs like the Joker, and kills like the Joker, it's the Joker to me, no matter what origin they use. I mean, the Joker himself has said he doesn't know his real origin in the comics anyway. He could've always been insane. He could've been locked in Arkham Asylum and then was suddenly released one day with a mysterious gas causing him to experience all of his deepest fears, including a giant, demonic man-bat flying through the sky, breaking his mind completely.
Does it really matter? Rumor is that Harvey Dent won't be splashed with acid. That Two-Face is born of something even more brutal. Does it matter if the story ends up good and the characters are mostly the same?
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