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The Joker Begins
Spinless:
Well word on the street is that they're not going to use acid. And that the reason for his scarring is gonna be more twisted than taking acid to the face. But that it still happens during the trial.
Actually, I don't know what my source for this, it's probably all bullshit.
Border Reiver:
--- Quote from: Spinless on 25 May 2007, 04:18 ---Common misconceptions about the old Batman movies:
-Jack Nicholson was a great Joker
-The last two weren't completely without merit.
-Casting in general was pretty good.
-The suits in Batman&Robin were pretty cool.
--- End quote ---
To answer on this:
a. Jack was very good as Joker, Mr. Ledger has some big shoes to fill and I hope his acting is up to it (and based on Knight's Tale, I'm not hopeful);
b. Yes they were. Jim carey as Riddler was just way too over the top, and although I can ofter watch any movie that puts Uma Thurman into revealing clothing, she and Arnie were just complety wooden in their roles. Neither of the two actors playing Batman added any depth or nuance to their portrayals of the Detective, in my opinion. Clooney for instance is much better as an actor where he is able to act the likeable rogue (Oh Brother where Art Thou? and Ocean's Eleven come to mind), but he was way too serious as Bruce Wayne/the Batman;
c. The First two movies were well cast and well acted and directed, the next two just seemed to go off the rails. Big names doesn't equate to solid casting; and
d. Let me get this straight, we're talking about the costumes with the nipples, right????
3Z3VH:
I liked the first one, and to a limited extent, the second one, but what killed it for me in the later movies were all the frikking LIGHTS. They decked out the batmobile in neon and lit up the city like it was frikking Vegas. That is NOT Gotham City. It is supposed to be a dark, gothic looking city.
Storm Rider:
--- Quote from: Border Reiver on 17 Sep 2007, 08:39 ---a. Jack was very good as Joker, Mr. Ledger has some big shoes to fill and I hope his acting is up to it (and based on Knight's Tale, I'm not hopeful);
--- End quote ---
Judging Heath Ledger's career from Knight's Tale makes about as much sense as judging Peter O'Toole's from Troy.
0bsessions:
In Batman Confidential, DC have been retelling Joker's origin yet again.
In it, Jack is already a thief with a flair for the dramatic. He ends up going on a killing spree and after killing a woman Wayne loves, Batman lobs a pair of batarangs at him, scarring his face into a vicious grin. The story isn't complete yet, but the solicits show Joker emerging from the infamous chemical pool on the cover.
Typically, a comics company only reimagines a character's origin for the sake of putting it in line with a movie or TV show currently in progress. I'd lay good odds on this being the origin for the movie, or at least something very close.
Honestly, though, I'm holding out hope they stick with the Killing Joke angle, as they're allegedly put a lot of thought into that. I was a big fan of the whole "one really bad day would drive anyone insane" idea.
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