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TheBoredOne:
I didn't like the casting done for Scarecrow either, but that movie turned out all right.

Johnny C:

--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 22 May 2007, 13:28 ---Add to that his insistence that there's no reason to do any serious research into the role by looking into the comics (Anna fucking Paquin wore gloves for six solid months to prep for playing Rogue, the least you could do is pick up the Killing Joke, dude).

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Huh? He was given a copy of The Killing Joke. Wikipedia has it cited that Nolan apparently didn't let him read the script for the film itself before shooting started. Ledger only had a brief glimpse which he was allowed to memorize and then was given The Killing Joke in order to prepare the character.

If you have an interview you can point me to I'll read it. Also I'm not even going to get into Paquin's work as Rogue.

Lines:

--- Quote from: Ozymandias on 22 May 2007, 19:43 ---Jack is not the end all be all of Jokers. Not even close.

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I didn't say that. I said "personally" meaning he was my favorite, not that he's the bestest Joker that ever lived. I like Ledger as an actor and I have faith in Nolan, it's just really hard for me to see him in that character until I see him doing something.

That and I'm setting the bar pretty high for this, because I liked the first one a lot and most of the super hero movies that have been coming out lately haven't been as good as they could be (especially the ones that are sequels).

ForteBass:
So you're setting the bar high for a movie that meets both criteria for a not-so-good movie...

0bsessions:
People comparing the odd casting of Cillian Murphy and Liam Neeson are missing two key aspects of that decision: both are well reputed as good actors, especially Neeson (Also note, when the movie was solicited, Neeson was listed as Ducard, not Ra's), who had the significantly bigger role. Heath Ledger is...not so good. Anyone seen the Order? The Patriot? A Knight's Tale?! I have faith in Chris Nolan, but I have absolutely none in Heath Ledger.

In response to Johnny, remember, you're dealing with Wikipedia here, which tends to be unreliable on occasion. You actually would've saved yourself a question if you'd checked the listed source:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=90305&highlight=Heath+Ledger

"HL: The Killing Joke was the one that was handed to me. I think it’s going to be the beginning of The Joker. I guess that book explains a little bit of where he’s from but not too much. From what I’ve gathered, there isn’t a lot of information about The Joker and it’s left that way."

As of that interview, he hadn't even read it yet. Considering the comic in question is about a half hour to forty-five minute read at best, that screams a lack of dedication to me.

Also from that same interview is the answer to your question: "DRE: Have you read many Batman comics?

HL: No and I think that’s kind of helping me a little bit. I was never really a fan of comic books or comic book movies. I never despised them but I was never one to read them. I never sought out the films but I would sit down and enjoy them. So because of that I really feel that I’m not carrying much pressure."

I've grown up reading this stuff and he seems to be carrying in almost the exact same attitude Halle Berry carried into X-Men, and she was, by far, the worst person in that cast, almost definitely because she didn't care about the source material.

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