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spotlessmind099:
a few friends of mine are in a band and had a contest to make posters and whatnot... this is my entry
the end.
Eris:
Oh, PrickOfDestiny, I just thought of something while looking at your pictures. Do you have a soft edge on your brush, or is it at 100% hardness or thereabouts? I am drawing something at the moment and at 44% hardness (and, uh, 15-20px brush) and realised that that also may help with your pixelly-ness of your lines.
Plus, a 5px brush is normally what I use for super fine detail, just thinking about using one that small for a whole picture is mind boggling; there are times when I will use 50px brushes for shading (hell, I'll probably use one of those with no hardness in this picture just for fun), but then again, I do my colouring differently than you do.. Oh, and I didn't realise you are using a separate canvas for each person; maybe that is why when you have more than one person interacting with each other it kinda looks off? If you draw them together on the same canvas it would help making interactions clearer and less stiff, and also probably help with composition of pictures more in general (thinking about your comic deal). Are you using references for your pictures?
PrickOfDestiny:
--- Quote from: Eris on 12 Jun 2009, 02:00 ---Oh, PrickOfDestiny, I just thought of something while looking at your pictures. Do you have a soft edge on your brush, or is it at 100% hardness or thereabouts? I am drawing something at the moment and at 44% hardness (and, uh, 15-20px brush) and realised that that also may help with your pixelly-ness of your lines.
Plus, a 5px brush is normally what I use for super fine detail, just thinking about using one that small for a whole picture is mind boggling; there are times when I will use 50px brushes for shading (hell, I'll probably use one of those with no hardness in this picture just for fun), but then again, I do my colouring differently than you do.. Oh, and I didn't realise you are using a separate canvas for each person; maybe that is why when you have more than one person interacting with each other it kinda looks off? If you draw them together on the same canvas it would help making interactions clearer and less stiff, and also probably help with composition of pictures more in general (thinking about your comic deal). Are you using references for your pictures?
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I'm using the brush tool in GIMP (as opposed to the pencil one, that has hard borders), and actually at 3 px wide (yes :D). Maybe you're right and I should merely draw my characters on different layers of a same canvas. I tend to not use references for humans, other than what my drawing mannequin can give me, either, unless I'm drawing, say, a baby, because of the different proportions.
For a look at the "before-after" of the shrinking of images...
Urania before, drawn on a 1200x1200 canvas with a 3px wide soft brush:
Urania after scaling:
Eris:
oh ok, I have worked out why your lines look all pixelly when they are small; Your lines need cleaning up when you are doing the inking. I know that sketchiness is part of your style and all that, but looking at the large version of that picture with the lines all uneven and there being extra lines just make it look lazy or amateurish. Seriously, look at the pointed hand and see how messy those lines are. They should be fixed up so that the lines are smooth, then it will look better.
One of the other drawing forums I lurk on (megatoyo's drawing subforum, it's really helpful and there are some really great artists on there, but they are a 'teaching forum' and really harsh and big on lifedrawing. They give homework) is very big on people not using lots of little lines, and encourage people to use larger single lines, as they are smoother and help the artist to learn how to conserve lines on the pictures to more effectively show the shape of the thing. Or something like that, at least. I generally use a lot of little sketchy lines like you do, but also spend forever cleaning them up so they are as smooth as I can get them. I am also trying to get out of that habit.
Ok, I am going to take a break on this for a little bit, but here is my latest picture so far (and sadly the first one I have used a reference for; NSFW)
gumboots are hard to draw! I am still struggling on the one I have drawn. Plus I am trying to play with lineweight as well, though it's not really that noticeable now that I look at the resized image.
PrickOfDestiny:
--- Quote from: Eris on 12 Jun 2009, 04:48 ---oh ok, I have worked out why your lines look all pixelly when they are small; Your lines need cleaning up when you are doing the inking. I know that sketchiness is part of your style and all that, but looking at the large version of that picture with the lines all uneven and there being extra lines just make it look lazy or amateurish. Seriously, look at the pointed hand and see how messy those lines are. They should be fixed up so that the lines are smooth, then it will look better.
One of the other drawing forums I lurk on (megatoyo's drawing subforum, it's really helpful and there are some really great artists on there, but they are a 'teaching forum' and really harsh and big on lifedrawing. They give homework) is very big on people not using lots of little lines, and encourage people to use larger single lines, as they are smoother and help the artist to learn how to conserve lines on the pictures to more effectively show the shape of the thing. Or something like that, at least. I generally use a lot of little sketchy lines like you do, but also spend forever cleaning them up so they are as smooth as I can get them. I am also trying to get out of that habit.
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Thanks, I'll try to make the appropriate compromise between speed (if I want to update once a week, I can't spend *very* long on artwork, considering I'm also in the middle of a summer project) and quality. I'll try to draw fewer little lines, and more long, smooth lines. Because, when I was a child, I was taught to draw with little lines for more control, it may prove hard, but as they say, no pain, no gain, right? :D
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