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Dark Knight Strikes Again

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Blue Kitty:
Dark Knight Returns was my first step in to some of Miller's work, and I loved the hell out of it.  When I found out that there was a sequel, which of course had been out for a good few years by then, I pretty much went crazy looking for it.  After I did grab myself a copy and read through it I found myself extremely disappointed.  In my opinion I feel that Strikes Again suffers from To-Many-Heroes-That-Are-Not-Batman-In-A-Batman-Book fever.

HPPH:
I... being the overly leftist, felt that Miller hit the nail on the head by having Batman realize that going after petty criminals or supercriminals was a distraction from people who cause more chaos and harm to human society in general. I also found that he rewarded the comic savvy with all the other characters he had involved and the dilemnas they had to over come. *SPOILER* Additionally, freeing the people of Kandor to be world's most angry and powerful tiny people was awesome.

I can only think of one other comic story that comes close to it in theme and fun, the end of Silver/Bronze age Superman by Alan Moore.

0bsessions:
Theme maybe, but I've never been able to find much real fun in reading Frank Miller. He just tends to be way too heavy handed most of the time.

SeanBateman:
This has nothing to do with Miller's vision of a post 9/11 world. It's just a sequel, and it's a very good sequel, to a fucking great comic. It's not as good as the original, because nothing really could be, but it's really fucking good. And yeah, All Star was pretty silly, but honestly that panel isn't that bad at all. I like Miller's batman because its clear that he is fucking insane. He's consumed with his ideas of right and wrong and doesn't really have any grasp on reality. No compromise, no balance, just all evil punished, all the time. It's why he's so fukcing good.

Also, seriously, Jeph Loeb as a "great batman writer?" He is ONLY worthwhile as a creator when working with Tim Sale. Everything else that motherfucker does is the worst kind of hackjobs. He doesn't do anything original, he just takes other people's classic stories and rewrites them. It works when  Sale is giving him a classic vibe, but he can't carry an original story for shit.

0bsessions:
Alright, tell you what. I'll draw you a compromise. Originally I wanted to write an epic diatrabe about how Loeb is great and such, but then I thought about his best works: Spider-Man Blue, Long Halloween, Dark Victory...every fucking one of them had Tim Sale involved, but that doesn't stop him from having some epic work. The Long Halloween is, in my opinion, not just one of the greatest Batman stories ever told, but one of the top comic book stories ever. The pair of Sale and Loeb is legendary, the likes of Claremont and Byrne or Lee and Ditko.

Other than that, I am trying so hard to refute you, but I am having the most horrendous bitch of a time trying to think of a classic story Loeb has done without Sale. Hulk Grey? Damn it...Daredevil Yellow? Fuck! Ummm....Wolverine? Well, that doesn't have Sale, but it's utter ass. Well, I personally quite loved his Superman/Batman run.

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