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HP: Order of the Pheonix (movie)
Eris:
I went in feeling fairly apathetic about the whole thing, but was pleasantly surprised. The soundtrack was good, even without John Williams, and the theme which has annoyed me since the first movie was not in it. Yay.
Luna Lovegood was great. Not what I pictured, but fit really well. Helena Bonham Carter does nuts quite well, and it looked as if she did her own hair and makeup. That must have cut costs, eh? I was hoping they'd put the whole 'bird turning into an egg then hatching into a bird then turning into an egg again' thing in, but it wasn't that important, so I wasn't that surprised. Would have been cool to see, though.
There were a few gripes about curses being in there when they shouldn't and a speech of Harry's which was said a bit early in the whole storyline.(I'm trying to be specific enough while not giving spoilers, so sorry about the vague-ness) Also, does Emma Watson ever not say her lines quite quickly, pause for a stupid amount of time then rush through her next bit of dialogue?
TrekkieTechie:
StaedlerMars, I guess I went in knowing that the book as I knew it would be gutted and rebuilt from the ground up, especially with the shortest runtime of any HP movie so far. *shrugs* I don't know, something about it just felt right. And I'm not saying they did a perfect job translating the book's events, characters, and locations to the screen -- there were a lot of little things that didn't match up with what I see in my head when I read the books -- but overall I thought they did a great job on it. I'm definitely looking forward to a Special Edition or Director's Cut DVD, I think they cut something like 30 minutes to get it down to this runtime.
I didn't care for the abruptness of the post-dream scene -- dream, Snape mind-raping Harry, oh look we're at Grim Old Place and it's Christmas now and the Weasleys are here and Arthur is jacked up but out of St. Mungo's. That goes back to the issues I think it had with 'passage of time', I'm really hoping the shooting script had something in between there.
Eris, that is so true about Emma Watson.
LeeZion:
Watching the fourth movie was like reading the book on fast-forward.
Watching the fifth movie was like reading the book with all the subtle nuances removed.
In terms of scenes, everything that absolutely needed to get in, stayed — but at a cost of taking the meaning and emoton out of it. The biggest failure was just after Harry saved Arthur, but it happened in other places as well. The explanation about the prophesy also would have helped. Marietta Edgecombe wasn't in the movie and thus what was also lost was the sense of moral ambiguity — that a character who isn't evil could do something so terribly wrong, believing herself to do the right thing.
It also would have been fun to see Harry's failed date with Cho, the swamp on the fifth floor, the nifflers and the flying brains.
StaedlerMars:
--- Quote from: LeeZion on 12 Jul 2007, 11:43 ---Watching the fifth movie was like reading the book with all the subtle nuances removed.
In terms of scenes, everything that absolutely needed to get in, stayed — but at a cost of taking the meaning and emoton out of it.
--- End quote ---
Well put
--- Quote from: TrekkieTechie on 12 Jul 2007, 08:39 ---I'm definitely looking forward to a Special Edition or Director's Cut DVD, I think they cut something like 30 minutes to get it down to this runtime.
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If that came out, I most definitely would look into it, just to see what they decided wasn't important enough. But as it stands now, I don't think I would buy the DVD (I might consider it for completeness sake).
I think what I was trying to say is: This movie couldn't stand alone and be a good movie. It needs the books for the little details. It felt to rushed. If you want to compare it to the Lord of the Rings films: I thought each film could stand apart and be good, you didn't need to read the books to like it. You didn't need to really have seen the other movies.
Ladybug:
I think I'm going to wait to see it until it's out on DVD, because I don't really know anyone that would go with me to watch it. I got them to watch the 3rd movie, but not the 4th, so probably not this one either.. I kinda feel like all the movies are a too rushed, especially the 3rd, so I mostly stick to the books, and watch the movies once just to see what they're like.
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