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Ayn Rand
Storm Rider:
And I thought we established within the context of the thread that Objectivism is garbage and for assholes.
Thirgaofq:
I just want to make clear that libertarianism and objectivism are not the same thing. Ayn Rand hated libertarians, and just because both groups advocate a strictly-limited government does not mean they are identical.
yelley:
--- Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 02 Sep 2007, 04:06 ---I've got a question about the Fountainhead, actually.
At some other forum, Rand came up and some people dismissed her because supposedly, in the Fountainhead, a female character is sexually assaulted but is written as though she enjoys it (an extremely submissive character) I don't know the context of the passage or if it's even there, but it seems pretty damning on its face.
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i seem to recall that she (dominique francon) wanted it, maybe she just didn't know it at the time. it is a fairly violent scene, but afterwards she reflects on it positively, saying that
--- Quote ---she had found pleasure in the thing which had happened, that he [roark] had known it
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here's what wiki has to say
--- Quote ---While Roark is working in the quarry, he encounters Dominique. There is an immediate physical attraction between the two of them. Dominique visits the quarry frequently to tempt Roark and requests that he be the one to repair some marble around the fireplace in her bedroom that she intentionally marred. He starts the work and subtly suggests to Miss Francon that she prey on someone in her own class. But she persists. After several meetings, Roark and Dominique have sex. There is controversy as to whether or not it was an act of rape. Rand herself has addressed this by stating "if it was rape, it was rape by engraved invitation." The acts of Dominique before and after the sex act are not consistent with a rape, but of a desired and consensual sexual encounter.
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Joseph:
What the fuck does "rape by engraved invitation" mean?
ummmkay:
It means that if a girl flirts with you a lot, it is okay to rape her!
(Also I never got past the first chapter of that book.)
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