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Faye and Sven
ShaineCoradara:
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--- Quote from: The Viz on 18 Feb 2008, 10:09 ---Maybe Faye finally took Dora's advice to just go out and "have yourself a good bang."
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Yeah.. but.. Sven?
...
I mean.. come on.
Granted it's a heckuva lot better than having Jeph spring a random character on us and say Faye slept with him, but, yeah.. Sven?.. :|
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Well, think about it hon. Faye could've slept with:
* Angus
* or Sven
<_<
Personally, I'd choose the smarmasaur too, but that's just me. Plus, I think Sven's cuter, and way better for her than Angus.
UnidentifiedFlyingCupcake:
I definitely agree with ChippyD, and also especially with the gF. I'm really excited about this--I've thought for a long time that they'd get together somehow, and that it would probably be really good for both characters and for the story. Faye and Sven both have crap to work out, and I think they can help each other do it; plus, I think it's obvious that they're really attracted to each other, so they should go for it; plus, Jeph has done a frickin' awesome job so far so let's just see where this goes! It will be really fun to see.
absurdabsurd:
To everyone who has gone down the "oh my god, these are WEBCOMIC CHARACTERS you're debating, people!" route - I'd like to point out that yes, yes they are. Characters that, as far as I can tell, are intended to be realistic and for that reason, I don't see the slightest problem in attempting to psycho-analyse any of the occurrings. If the plot stopped being realistic, QC would experience a dramatic drop in quality that could not be excused by saying "well, they're webcomic characters".
I am not saying I am nuts and fully expect the characters to have a mind of their own out of Jeph's control - no, he is obviously the one writing the plot and the character's actions, but unless we are able to trace the justifications behind them, then the storyline becomes useless. Good character development is a mark of good storytelling. Simple.
I've seen Sven/Faye coming for a long time. Of course, there was always the "No, Jeph would not do this as it's TOO obvious" aspect, but I am pleased it did. I daresay it NOT happening would have been unrealistic if the friendship had continued as it has. The only other alternative would have been for Faye to distance herself once again (not neccessarily because of any romantic feelings per se, but just down to mere 'he's not such a bad guy' sentiments), and nobody would have liked to see that happening.
Sven was a likely candidate - BECAUSE he embodies so many things Faye dislikes, it would have been easy for Faye to initially feel secure in the knowledge that NO, nothing would ever happen between them. That's one wall overcome, which might explain how she became so friendly and comfortable around him. Which then in turn more or less naturally would have led to sexual tension simply because Faye is the sort of girl Sven would not go for and vice versa, and yet here they are, getting along (more or less) well, keeping each other nice and grounded.
We must also not forget that presumably, they had been drinking a little, and yes, alcohol lowers boundaries. There was one stopping point just after the first kiss, but anyone who has been in a similar situation should be aware that stepping back then is an extremely unlikely course of action. Though again, Jeph could have stopped there and had her freak out then and nobody would have really questioned it. Instead, it went further. I'm currently enjoying the inevitable post-coital-bliss Faye must be experiencing (I see her madly bouncing around CoD and putting it all down to the caffeine).
Where to now? I don't see this becoming something romantic. Not for the time being, anyway. Neither of them really have the personalities or are at a point in life where "let's give a relationship a try" seems like a realistic thing to say or even consider. Faye could freak out completely... but that would, I daresay, annoy most readers. As far as I can see, she has been on an upwards slope in recent strips, and I doubt sleeping with Sven would throw her back down. Dopamine, kids.
"Pushing boundaries" may indeed be the keywords here - I almost see it as Faye taking advantage of Sven. He wouldn't have said no. Pushing her boundaries with him was, relatively speaking (in comparison to other guys) easy. What, to me, remains to be seen is whether it's a repeat occurrence or whether they leave it at that and never speak of it again.
Things that have entertainment potential:
-Sven telling Dora what happened. He might just do so out of fear that Faye will do so first, in a not-so positive light. (Incidentally, Sven, casually as he is acting now, may suddenly go into a sort of guilt-trip mode).
-Hannelore, traumatized, refusing to talk to Faye. She may turn to Pintsize/Wainslow for advice. Pr0n attack engineered by the former ensues.
....and of course, I am personally just waiting for the line "Well, yes, we were making out, but you were so drunk you just kind of fell asleep before we actually got down to the sex."
((PS: I may have gone a little overboard with this length-wise. Apologies.))
BurgandySkies:
I think if Faye stayed Bitter Faye than she wouldn't be growing as a character and it's the character development that makes QC so much fun.
Also, when I first started reading QC a friend of mine who is also a fan gave me a knowing look and said it was probably because I relate so much to Faye. (I also have body issues, a family trauma, used to have a fear of abandonment because of said trauma, am a recovered alcoholic, and hit boys for flirtting too much.)
I used to be just like Faye and I got together with the womanizer and everyone said we'd break up in two weeks (some people even took bets), and you know what? We've been together ten years!
And I am still bitter and sarcastic. And I still hit boys for flirting too much. (Although now I have a better reason.) So, it can be done!!
I give much kudos to Jeph for tackling this storyline!!
Once again QC has made me say "That's me! That's me!"
I love it!
BoisterousFanboy:
I never join forums but I honestly had to join this one. I've been reading QC for a few years now and I've been reading the forums off and on for the last few months..
anyhoo I felt the recent events warranted me throwing down my two cents. Sorry if it's kinda long but I am wordy and have a lot to say.
Faye could have slept with Angus or Sven... and maybe Steve if she really wanted to and he was really drunk or being stupid. Not that I think that would EVER happen I'm just saying there's not a whole mountain of available male characters for her to choose from if she were choosing:
1. Steve is Martens best friend so he'd never go for it and neither would Faye for the same reason (among others)
2. Angus may be an interesting character but I think Faye realizes he's a bit tweaked upstairs and probably more trouble than he's worth even if she DOES think he's good looking
3. Sven.. well, he's Sven. Not to mention Dora's brother, Raven's obsession, and a recovering womanizer.
BUT we've seen Sven's character develop a lot over the last few months and we see that he's not all bad and that he's trying to be a better guy. I would like to point out that just because he's had a lot of sex doesn't mean he's been a bad guy about it. Remember when he first got "on the wagon" and his old sex buddy Eva showed up? She didn't seem scorned in the least and was in fact quite willing to jump back in the sack with him. An opportunity he passed up remember?
Yeah there was that chick he ditched in the bar that night that Faye yelled at him but that event occured to set these events in motion. Anyhoo my point is that just because he's had a lot of sex doesn't mean that he's a bad guy and it doesn't mean that a lot of his "conquests" weren't willing participants in the act and knew exactly what the nature of their hook-up entailed. He's guilty of some poor judgement and he's made some mistakes but hey, who isn't? And he seems genuinely interested in being a better man now.
I don't see this really going anywhere substantial in the long run but I daresay that Sven may have been more interested in this happening then some of us are giving him credit for. Especially in the most recent strip where he very non-chalantly walks out of the bathroom and is all "hey, how are ya, good morning" blah blah. This, to me, is a guy who's very happy with the way things have turned out. Given Faye's past I was expecting a more subdued, concerned reaction from him the next morning. If I was to go all Dr. Drew on this I'd say that Sven idealizes Faye in a way he's not sure how to express. He's a girl he's genuinely interested in spending time with and that might scare him, it might frighten him, and it probably intrigues him. It's the "wanting something you can't have" thing. But now he's "had it" so to speak, and he's been able to express those feelings sexually which aside from music is probably the best way he knows how to.
For Faye's part I think she just got fed up with being guarded and for some reason decided to throw caution to the wind that night. Maybe it was just Sven's comments or the fact that she's gotten to know him, or the fact that he has a safe sort of confidence about him but she decided to take some sort of leap. Time will tell wether it was forward or back. Her reactions in the most recent strip speak like she was crazy drunk the night before (omg last night really happened?) but I don't think that was the case for either of them.
I think this is good for Faye, to let her guard down a bit. If only from the threat of violence from Faye and Dora you know Sven will probably do the right thing, even if that entails doing nothing. There is, of course, the obvious issue of sleeping with your friend/boss' brother. Dora probably won't like this at first (Or Raven but who cares?). And Sven was becoming a decent friend to Faye, there's issues there too. He's been a good friend thus far.
AND if Marty still has a decent pair of testicles I Don't know a guy alive that, given this situation, wouldn't go "Oh COME on! HIM!? You've been hanging out with him for like 5 DAYS! I was your doormat for a YEAR!"
I predict that Faye resumes freaking out and accuses Sven of somehow seducing her, takes no responsibility for her actions and storms out. OR she goes into sensory overload and doesn't know how to deal with what's happened and leaves anyway.
I don't see a real relationship happening between them but I wouldn't be opposed to see what Jeph would do with it.
No matter what I can see the comic getting very interesting for a while.
Sorry for the long-winded post. It's my first.
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