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[imapiratearg]

I didn't know whether or not to post this in the music thread, because that's mainly what I use them to get.  But anywho.  I mainly use Limewire, but I also have Ares.  I don't really like Ares very much, because I'm not used to it.  Limewire, however, I like, but I don't always find what I want.

Does anyone else use them?  Can someone recommend me a better one?

[Thy Dungeonman]

Soulseek. It's especially useful for finding rarities or entire albums. It may look confusing to use at first, but you get the hang of it pretty quickly.

http://www.slsknet.org/

[imapiratearg]

Is it better than Limewire though?

[Thy Dungeonman]

Yeah, I think it's a lot better.

But it only works with music. If you want videos or other files, you should try something else.

[imapiratearg]

Ah.  There's a catch.  I rarely download videos, so it should be good.  Thanks man!

[Kana]

Lossless audio full discographies or albums... something you'll never find on limewire.  Private torrent sites ftw

[johannaffendy]

there's Frostwire, supposedly better than lime. a bit complicated are the torrents, but it's just a matter of time before you get used to it. i suggest using uTorrent.

[0bsessions]

I don't understand why people call torrents complicated. It's no more complex than moving files from one location of your computer to another (Which I do anyways when I download something, I'm ridiculously organized with my files).

I use BitLord for the actual program and get the vast majority of my files from Demonoid.com and Mininova.org.

[johannaffendy]

the reason is: some people are not, how you say it, IT literate. using limewire is a whole lot easier than torrents.

[0bsessions]

I'm far from an IT person, myself. I can handle hardware quite well, but I'm not great with software. That said, torrents are pretty idiot proof if you've used a computer for more than a year of your life.

[Baggy]

I think torrents seem confusing until you actually use them or someone shows you how, then you realize it's extremely easy.  I suggest using azureus for your torrent application, and I often just use torrentz.com to search for what I want in torrent sites. 

I still have to find a friend who can invite me to demonoid though.

[johannaffendy]

talking from observation and experience, torrents do take some time to figure out if you're a first time user. and it's a lot harder to use if you're afraid to break new grounds.

[MlKE]

I've had a lot of trouble teaching people how to use utorrent.

but I've never known anyone who has figured out torrents say it's not as good as what they were using, like limewire or ares.


I highly suggest using utorrent if you're a fan of full albums.




also: baggy, check your pm's

[TrekkieTechie]

I use μTorrent and a variety of torrent search engines. A great way to pull down full albums and discographies.

[MlKE]

but the search engines are also a great way to get an email from your service provider telling you to cease and desist.

i suggest using private trackers. they often have a better selection, and you're not going to get fucked over as easily.

[ackblom12]

Demonoid is probably my favorite all around tracker. Love it so very very much.

Otherwise, I'll jump on the bandwagon and say that Soulseek is the only P2P program worth using anymore.

[Dimmukane]

btjunkie.org is basically google for torrents.  It scans every single torrent available on the webz, even private trackers.  If you want to download from the private trackers, you simply pay a membership fee every month (something under 10$ US I think).

[MlKE]

most private trackers will ban any member who posts a torrent on btjunkie, though.

private trackers are supposed to be just that. private. and it's not like it's hard to get an invite to any of the various private trackers out there.

[Lazer]

I still don't get what's so hard to figure out about torrents.

1.) FIND TORRENT PROGRAM
2.) GET .TORRENT FILE WITH LOTS OF SEEDS.
3.) MAKE SURE .TORRENT FILE HAS NO LEECHES
4.) START TORRENT
5.) OPTIONAL: CLICK "RANDOMIZE PORT" IF IT'S GOING SLOW. IF IT STILL GOES SLOW YOU SUCK EGGS AND PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE INTERNET.

[johannaffendy]

frostwire/limewire/ares.

1) SEARCH FOR AUDIO/VIDEO
2) DOWNLOAD FILE WITH HIGH RATINGS

you have to remember, some of us are fast learners and some of us aren't.

[0bsessions]

You forgot multiple steps in the P2P:

1.) Find P2P Program
2.) Search for Audio/Video
3.) Download File with high ratings

Compared to torrents:

1.) Find torrent program
2.) Search for torrent
3.) Download torrent with good seed to leecher ratio

I've done both for years and they are essentially the exact same process. There is really no excuse to use P2P over torrent as they are no more complicated than P2P.

[Lotus]

Use torrents.  Then, if you have a friend who has an Oink account do anything to get an invite from him or her.  So much music it's difficult to believe.  Oink's music collection shadows other torrent sites.
The relationship between P2P and security makes me uneasy, too.  Reading the comments on torrent sites becomes so helpful when trying to keep your computer safe.

[Kana]

For security whether P2P or Torrenting I recommend Peer Guardian 2, learn it & love it.  You can configure as high or low you want it to net from IPs.  I found it hilarious that the Ministry of Kuwait's IP range kept hittng my net for a torrent of Borat.

[azgarth]

i use a couple of things, usenet, FTP, google, torrents, soulseek.
soulseek is awesome for the rarer stuff, and just feels good.

torrents for  huge discographies, usually my first search, i usually use www.torrentz.com or www.toorgle.com, to search, i used to use demonoid, but with the recent problems with it in holland, i'm not sure i trust it anymore, even though i have peerguardian2 running.
i use bitcomet, used to use azureus, and am thinking of switching back, in the very beginning, i use bitlord, untill i found out that it was basically a bad knockoff of an older version of bitcomet, with spyware/adware added(seriously, check the extension protection thing, .bc? bitcomet), but because bitcomet puts some ads in the client aswell, azureus looks tempting once again, not gonna use utorrent, ever since that RIAA thing with them.

usenet is nice,  but seeing as my ISP only has 5 days retention, it's not THAT useful, usually impulse downloads.

ftp, well, napalm FTP can find alot, and since it's directly from ftp channels, its fast as well.

for google i just use g2p.org, also usually direct download, easy.

[gubgubkolkol]

I personally use emule for my p2p but i would recommend utorrent with mininova or tpb.

[pilsner]

Having used µtorrent for about a year now, I can't think of a singular reason to use anything else.  Does emule, etc have any particular advantages?

[gubgubkolkol]

I like it because theres so many files, you can almost always find whatever you need. Its got kad network supported and its ed2k. Plus, EmulePlus is pretty easy to learn the ropes of.
Port forwarded, its quite good.

[Rubby]

I still don't get what's so hard to figure out about torrents.

1.) FIND TORRENT PROGRAM
2.) GET .TORRENT FILE WITH LOTS OF SEEDS.
3.) MAKE SURE .TORRENT FILE HAS NO LEECHES
4.) START TORRENT
5.) OPTIONAL: CLICK "RANDOMIZE PORT" IF IT'S GOING SLOW. IF IT STILL GOES SLOW YOU SUCK EGGS AND PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE INTERNET.

You don't really understand how Torrents or TCP/IP works do you?
First of all, a torrent doesn't have to have no leechers, just a low leecher to seeder ratio. You can still download pieces from a leecher who has already received pieces you don't have.
Second, the only reason that randomizing the port might make your download faster is if you happen to land on a port which has been previously forwarded. You need to open a port for the torrent program to communicate on in your firewall and router if you use a router. Randomizing is far from the optimal option.

[2.0]

Anybody care to comment about Poisoned for Mac? I have 10.3.9, can't find limewire for Panther plus i think limewire is not that good anyway.  Somewhere someone told me poisoned is pretty good but i have my doubts.

[3Z3VH]

I agree on Torrents being highly preferred over actual P2P programs.

I use Azureus for Torrents, and private tracker sites like Demonoid and TVTorrents.  I absolutely adore TVTorrents because of the strict guidelines they have for people who post torrents.  You don't get a bunch of garbage or text files or BS in the torrent, just the files you wanted, at the resolution/bitrate you wanted.

[MusicScribbles]

The site that seems to be the most efficient for me when searching for torrents is www.scrapetorrent.com because it takes the search that you do on their site and search through all of the other torrent sites, including btjunkie.com, so it feels like the best to me. Otherwise, for music I'd say Oink or Demonoid would be good, but I'm not still sure as I have yet to get my hands on an invite for either.