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Catfish_Man:

--- Quote from: DavidGrohl on 22 Oct 2007, 10:55 ---  Wait until you get to act 5.  If all the acts were as good as act 5, the game would be named Game of the Millenium.  Seriously . . .  Why they didn't make the earlier acts better to entice players to play the game is beyond me.

  Also, while I loooove the game, the demo is a HORRIBLE representation of the game.  They definitely failed in that.

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That was true of D2 as well. Act 5 was as good as the rest of the game put together.

DavidGrohl:
  Soo many bugs!  Not that they're not being resolved (patch this week).  It just sucks that they released the game about a month too early. 

  If anyone is interested in this game, just a forewarning:  Don't buy it expecting polish.  Wait until late December.

  That being said, the game's great fun, even with the bugs.

thepugs:
The only major bugs that I think need to be addressed so far are quest rewards "choose for me" buttons being broken, the nanoforge being broken, and uniques being broken.  All the others pale in comparison to those.

I can't wait until they get the bugs out and start adding neat features, like a 'destroy' or 'breakdown' hotkey, or the ability to split stacks without a recipe.  Things like that would be nice.

I finally hit Act 5, and am going back to complete all the quests I can before I finish normal and move on to Nightmare.  I hear the grinding is ridiculous in NM so I'm waiting to see if maybe they'll tone it down a bit in a patch.

Orbert:

--- Quote from: Catfish_Man on 17 Nov 2007, 14:37 ---
--- Quote from: DavidGrohl on 22 Oct 2007, 10:55 ---  Wait until you get to act 5.  If all the acts were as good as act 5, the game would be named Game of the Millenium.  Seriously . . .  Why they didn't make the earlier acts better to entice players to play the game is beyond me.

  Also, while I loooove the game, the demo is a HORRIBLE representation of the game.  They definitely failed in that.

--- End quote ---

That was true of D2 as well. Act 5 was as good as the rest of the game put together.

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I have to disagree with that. Act 5 did have some cool innovations in what the Blizz guys did with the D2 stuff, but it also smacked of laziness and lack of QC. The Quest triggers were screwed, for one thing. Larzuk never says his Intro speech, which even includes a different speech upon meeting an Amazon. Instead he hits you right away with "If you're here to defaat Baal..." which is his Quest speech. If you want to hear his Intro speech, you have to choose Talk and select it. If it's meant to be brusque and intimidating (which would be in character for a Barbarian), why does he have such a nice, friendly voice? Similar thing happens with Qual-Khek. Once you've stopped the siege, the next thing on his priority list is rescuing the 15 losers who managed to get themselves captured out there. But again, he never gets to give that speech, because as soon as you head up the stairs behind Shenk, the Quest triggers. Plus you can get killed before even reaching the Waypoint. Nice. Have to do that shit all over again.

There's that spot in Malah's place where her head disappears but you see her feet as she walks around.

Originally, there was no variety in the monsters you faced in Act V. Why? Because they didn't bother to come up with enough new ones to provide a pool to choose from, as with the first four Acts. That's why they came up with the idea of "guest monsters" with patch 1.10.

There are maps in the Ice Caves (can't remember which area specifically - and they're all the same anyway) which don't generate a Waypoint, because of a bug in the mapping algorithm as applied to the specific area.

The Ancients have a great speech (too long, but kinda cool) which they don't give most of the time, for some reason. Another bug.

Yes, these are all nitpicky things, but taken all together, and the fact that Blizz hasn't bothered to patch most of them, give the impression that you're playing something that the creators just didn't pay much attention to. Getting all that cool new stuff to work was important, yes, but shouldn't be at the expense of annoying little things you have to face every time you play. Blizz has a reputation for some quality stuff, but IMO they fumbled with D2 Act V.

Beren:

--- Quote ---Not that they're not being resolved (patch this week).
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Oh hell yes. Wait. Do I have to subscribe for that?

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