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Storm Rider:
--- Quote from: Scandanavian War Machine on 28 Nov 2007, 16:32 ---meaning you can train with it? or you are just good at it without training? i don't get it.
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After you unlock the achievement you get the Talent tree for that weapon on every future character you create. I never use Sniper Rifles, so my Adept will be able to train Shotguns and Assault Rifles next playthrough and that's basically better than a Vanguard only without Medium Armor.
Dimmukane:
--- Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 28 Nov 2007, 16:54 ---
Pretty sure that one doesn't count, since I completed that sidequest without removing the VI. You just have to be really thorough. Make sure you've checked everywhere. There are 2 in the Citadel tower aside from the one you start the quest with, there's one in the back rooms behind the financial district, there's one tucked away in Flux by the Quasar machines, etc. Really, the Keeper scanning is just a means to the end of getting Shepard all around the citadel and hopefully engaged in all the little side quests they've spread throughout it. I don't remember there being any huge payoff for getting all of them scanned, but it might be part of the Codex achievement, since all the other collection quests added an entry upon completion.
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The only places I can think I might not have checked thoroughly are basically just the med-clinic and a hallway in the markets...whatever, outside of killing the gang members on the other planets, I believe that's the only Citadel quest I have left.
KvP:
I think there might be one in the "transition corridor" between the Wards and the Presidium. Check there. Also there is a keeper in the hallway where you find Tali, and unless you went there before or after you probably didn't have the chance to scan it.
Storm Rider:
OK, I just finished it about an hour ago. This year has been a monumental one for video games. Bioshock, Super Mario Galaxy, and now Mass Effect have all been released within the last 3 months and they're all some of my favorite games of all time.
I think I'm going to open another thread for spoiler-filled plot discussion, but I have to say that I've yet to see a world of fiction so in-depth and well realized in a game. Also, it seems like Mass Effect achieves what KOTOR was aiming to do but couldn't quite achieve: making you feel like your choices really do matter, and forcing you to make really hard decisions. I think removing the whole light/dark thing and replacing it with the more ambiguous system helped that to an extent.
Also, the dialog system is totally brilliant. Sure, the conversations precede similarly in some cases no matter what you choose, but it feels like you're so much more in control. I really felt like I was in control of Shepard, not just trotting him along some path that had been set out beforehand. It's a subtle thing that makes a world of difference.
The game isn't perfect by any standards. All the criticisms about load times and texture popping and framerate are totally legitimate, but I can't remember the last time I've enjoyed a game this much. This almost rivals BGII, in my opinion. I can't wait for the next one. I'm moving on to Assassin's Creed, but I fully intend to go back and do a second playthrough with my badass biotic renegade.
jeph:
Yeah, I beat it last night. Extremely satisfying.
I really, really hope they find a way to make the choices you made in this game carry over into the sequels. That would be incredibly badass.
I'm doing a second playthrough as a Soldier. It's much a more fun class than I was expecting!
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