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So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Storm Rider:
I was actually going to suggest Bolt Thrower a little while ago when somebody suggested that submissions should have an emphasis on rocking out, as per the original thread.
Joseph:
The original thread was plagued with problems. Let's try and save this one.
Caspian:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 10 Oct 2007, 22:37 --- I could maybe agree with you on the count that no one would listen to Nightwish without Tarja (Tuomas cannot sing for shit, though in a way that makes his contributions kind of endearing) though in what universe you consider Tarja's singing to be shit I cannot imagine. Honestly, thats about the only sensible criticism that CAN'T be labelled at Nightwish: their lyrics are half-baked scanglish, their songwriting is pedestrian, their instrumental work generally unremarkable, their album covers, videos etc. are mired in horrendous cliches and their whole formula had been done much, much better by other bands before they ever existed (Lacrimosa and ToT being the examples that instantly spring to mind). Not to mention the clones. Yet to attack Nightwish on the basis that Tarja can't sing seems to me basically insane: as far as I'm concerned her voice is pretty much the only reason you WOULD listen to Nightwish (or if, like me, you have to beat down a boner when a song directly references David Eddings then starts dropping Tolkien samples).
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Admittedly, I've only heard two Nightwish albums. Tarja didn't sound all that bad in Oceanborn, admittedly, but she sounded really, really terrible in Century Child. I haven't heard Oceanborn for ages, but from what I remember in Century Child she had basically no range- she's singing in the same key the whole time, has basically no emotion in her voice whatsoever, doesn't really have a good deal of pitch control (perhaps I was being picky but she definitely goes out of tune on the longer notes), and she can't do anything at all but wail all operatically in the same key and same pitches, song after song. She has absolutely no versatility (as the abomination that's Slaying the Dreamer shows). I'll leave it to a random Metal-Archives review to express my feelings:
--- Quote ---And it's not just that she sounds so shrill that when you listen to it, all dogs within a kilometer's radius start to wail and all glasses nearby begin to collapse, it's that she is so damned untalented too. I mean, her voice sounds so static and amelodic, I've heard more complexly arranged melodic vocal performances from Cannibal Corpse. What is this? A soprano trying to imitate Tom Araya? So, it's not just awful, it's bad too. But hey, to give Tarja a little credit, the awful far outweighs the bad. She manages to make her voice so painfully unlistenable that most of the time you don't even quite notice how untalented she is. Good job there, got to give her some credit.
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Also: With Arch Enemy, I'd agree with you that it's Amott's band, and Gossow is nowhere near as annoying as Tarja. To me, I just don't think her death metal vocals are all that great/interesting, better then perhaps In Flames' vocalist perhaps but that's about it (but then again, my 10 year old bro can probably do better growls then Anders). Perhaps I'm being sexist, but I bet Amott already knew a couple of growlers prior to finding Gossow (I don't know how they met up, I could be totally wrong about this) so I just get the feeling that he might've heard her and went "Well, she's not terrible, might as well do it to be unique". But having said that, I don't know how Gossow got in the band, so my ignorance may well show me up.
Anyway, one band that needs a mention is THe Gathering. Anneke was a great vocalist and it's a real shame she quit. I might upload Nightime Birds and Mandylion a bit later.
Storm Rider:
Speaking of Anneke, she was on an Ayreon album, and Ayreon albums in general have pretty fantastic female performances. The Human Equation is the most obvious one, but that's because it's basically totally amazing and I have no idea how Arjen will ever manage to top it.
KharBevNor:
That's kinda interesting actually Caspian, because the exact how of how Angela got into Arch Enemy is usually used as one of the criteria for dismissing her. She's Amott's girlfriend/partner.
Also, I wouldn't really want Metal Archives to be expressing my opinions on classically trained vocalists. Ever. Anyone complaining about pitching probably shouldn't be listening to metal anyway: I'd like to see anyone get away with making the same kind of criticisms against, say, King Diamond.
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