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The whole downloading music thing...
a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: qiZzer on 08 Nov 2007, 04:38 ---dam it i had not intention of set off godwins law and i did not wan tto shut down the thread. In my post I did not call any one a Nazi, or a commie i never attacked anyone, i was just trying to set a president. But apparently using a WWII reference was wrong. Ok how about When coke tried a new formula that was a disaster. Only assholes resort to name calling and personal insults, I'm sorry that what it turned into therefore i remove my self from the conversation out of respect for others, all im going to say did anyone get what i was trying to say about the importance of data as property of the owner and/or creator? (is that better grammar for you)
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Yeah, that's readable now. The argument isn't very well constructed though, so I still don't see the importance of what you're saying or the reasoning behind it.
Mnementh:
--- Quote from: tommydski on 08 Nov 2007, 06:51 ---As they say, to catch a thief set a...president?
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There is an election 2000 joke in here that I'm just not smart enough to make.
StaedlerMars:
I think what he is getting at is that it's hard to draw the line between data and actual property. He used identity theft as an example, which I believe isn't a bad call. Identity theft is just the stealing of binary files. Yet it's definitely theft. In a weird way it's comparable to downloading. I think it's possibly the best argument against the 'mp3s are just binary code' put forwards so far.
However, that isn't to say that I agree with the idea that the enormous datafile isn't going to happen. Most music can already be found of it. Like tommy said, with download speeds increasing, getting access to almost unlimited amounts of music in a heartbeat isn't such an obscure thought. Last night I had the surprising pleasure of having an 8mbs connection. This is a song in half a second. In ten years time who knows...
supersheep:
The argument about data being the property of the creator has been made already. It doesn't hold in my book. The creator of antiretroviral drugs owns them. Lots of people have died because cheap copies could not be made. This is a bad thing.
amok:
--- Quote from: tommydski on 08 Nov 2007, 11:57 ---Identity theft is used to commit fraud, which is a tangible crime.
I'm not using MP3s to commit fraud.
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yeah if identity thieves just re-posted the identities on private trackers for other identity-lovers to read the information and enjoy and never do anything illegal with, it would not be such an issue
interesting thought experiment but poor analogy I'm afraid
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