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The whole downloading music thing...
John Curtin:
Depends on where you are. As far as I know, in some jurisdictions, it is an offence to distribute unlicensed copies, in others it is an offence to receive unlicensed copies. In many jurisdictions there is no criminal offence relating to copyright at all. Problems can arise in terms of conflict of laws: where is the offence or breach of contract or tort committed when you download something from the internet hosted in a different country? Is it where the server is, or is it where your computer is, or both? Does a person who uploads onto the internet commit an offence in every place where somebody downloads?
I don't know the answer to these questions because I haven't studied conflict of laws or intellectual property law. But it's definitely not theft: theft involves physically moving some property belonging to somebody else.
a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: Luke C on 18 Oct 2007, 03:55 ---Personally I think it is fair if you download a band's album for free, that you enjoy and will listen to it again, as long as at some point you give them some sort of money for it. Either you buy the album, go to a gig or buy some merch whatever. I just think morally it is the decent thing to do.
--- End quote ---
Why should my appreciation of something be morally reliant on a financial transaction? And can can I really be said to have downloaded a band's album when all I have is a few digital files? Is it possible to really claim ownership of a sequence of sounds?
StaedlerMars:
Just as much as it is possible to claim ownership over an idea, and people do that all the time.
I think he meant that, instead of buying the album, you can sponsor the band in ways that actual affect them. You're not morally responsible, but it would be a nice gesture. The artists did put some work into it, and you can show some appreciation. Whether this is by sending them an e-mail with 'you guys are great' or by buying one of their shirts - if the band is making music just to make music - they'll be glad to accept both.
and as an update,
according to Forbes people are still more likely to rip the album than actually get it for free of the website.
I figure it's not actually accurate because people probably just assumed that they wouldn't pay anything anyways, but apparently more radiohead albums were downloaded through filesharing/torrents than from the actual website.
Scandanavian War Machine:
Reporter: "How do you feel about people downloading your music off the internet?"
Dave Grohl: "I don't care. I'm already rich."
Now, that's a man who's got his priorities straight. Perhaps.
Ninja-bot:
I'd hesitate to download an album from a local band whom I know to have fronted the costs of their own EP/album. Also, at most shows, the CDs on sale were purchased by the band (for cost, or near to it as possible) for resale. They end up seeing a few dollars more, more often than not from those sales.
In the end, do your part and help support the bands you love, otherwise they may not make another album of music, downloadable off a torrent or otherwise.
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