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Rowling drops the gay bomb
Liz:
--- Quote from: KimJongSick on 24 Oct 2007, 17:26 ---Yeah, I've got the medal and everything. It's a BITCH to train for.
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I don't even want to know.
Also, how about that whole 'Dumbledore is gay' thing, eh?
the-artful-dodger-rodger:
doesnt really matter?, I mean Dumbledore being gay, I just see it as fuel for fire for the fundies out there.
LizziL:
--- Quote from: Misconception on 24 Oct 2007, 18:53 ---
--- Quote from: KimJongSick on 24 Oct 2007, 17:26 ---Yeah, I've got the medal and everything. It's a BITCH to train for.
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I don't even want to know.
Also, how about that whole 'Dumbledore is gay' thing, eh?
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Clearly we have moved on to the topic of pooping! God, some people, with their 'guys, come on guys, let's keep to the point, guys...'
BAH I SAY!
Also - She probably avoided outing Sirius or Lupin for the (obviously legitimate) fear of poop on her lawn.
bryanthelion:
I think she made dumbledore gay because everyone else makes her characters gay...
Its like
"Oh, My audience LOVES gay people... I'll make the best character gay! They'll love that!"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1675622,00.html
heres an interesting article on the topic
Jimmy the Squid:
That article is kind of fucking ridiculous. Especially the bit about Dumbledore's homosexuality being the character's emotional identity. Because it obviously wasn't. Dumbledore's identity as a homosexual wizard was completely beside the point as any revelation of his sexual identity would not have furthered the storyline anymore. As it was Dumbledore was a kindly and obviously loving character that was surrounded by mystery. You didn't even find out any explicit information about him until the final books of the series. The thing that pisses me off the most though is that Cloud (the author) seems to be one of the many people out there with the view that all homosexual people have to be loud, "out there" and obnoxious about their orientation in order to justify it. Cloud talks about how it was "pathetic and tragically stereotypical" that Dumbledore should not talk nor acknowledge his sexuality. He also says that we can only conclude that Dumbledore found it shameful. I do not suppose it is possible that Dumbledore just found it none of anyone's damn business. Perhaps it would have been more empowering if he acted like Jack from Will & Grace? I find it impossible that people can be angry that a character as beloved as Dumbledore, a character who is seen as a role model now not just for the straight kids who want to practice magic but for the gay ones as well, a character who in all interactions conducts himself with grace and dignity was not portrayed as a stereotyped, campy and, let's face it, laughable caricature of an old gay man.
I've had a couple of conversations about personal identity with people I know and I have never understood why who you are attracted to is somehow the be all and end all of your existance. I'm told that because I'm a straight, white, middle class male all my opinions on any subject that does not concern people like me are completely bunk. That may or may not be true but I cannot fathom for one instant why a fictional portrayal of a gay man has to include loud, camp, and obnoxious behaviour. It is beyond me.
I realise that my little rant makes me come off as a bit of a crazy jerk who goes nuts on internet forums *nods to certain other forumites, you know who you are* and if someone wants to put forth a convincing argument as to why I am wrong then please go ahead because I would love to understand the opposing viewpoint.
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