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what makes a great lyricist?

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Johnny C:

--- Quote from: Ishotdanieljohnston on 31 Oct 2007, 00:35 ---Real simplicity is a real virtue in lyrics. To be able to retain orignality but just put things in uncliched, honest terms makes for great music. This is very true of the largely forgotten late folk and country singer Tim Hardin:

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About whom Will Sheff wrote the album I quoted from well up the page. Funny how these things connect!

tomselleck69:
what makes a great lyricist:

tom waits' dad and tom waits' mom


badum-CHUH

imapiratearg:

--- Quote from: Ishotdanieljohnston on 31 Oct 2007, 00:35 ---Real simplicity is a real virtue in lyrics. To be able to retain orignality but just put things in uncliched, honest terms makes for great music. This is very true of the largely forgotten late folk and country singer Tim Hardin:

["Black Sheep Boy" lyrics]


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I'm confused.  Those are Okkervil River's lyrics.  I have no idea who Tim Hardin is.

Ishotdanieljohnston:
Okkervil River covered his orignal... Tim Hardin was a really great singer back in the 60's and 70's, the whole album is loosely based arround his life, which ended young from a heroine overdose.

Scandanavian War Machine:

--- Quote from: monkandmovies13 on 02 Nov 2007, 04:07 ---It depends what you want in your songs.

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Agreed. There's no "one thing" but many things that are good for different reasons. Tom Waits and Sam Beam are great story tellers without being overly complex; Aesop Rock, on the other hand, uses incredibly complex metaphor and analogy to describe simple concepts.

I had more to add to this but I forget what it was. Damn customers distracting me from my slacking off.

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