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Sweeney Todd
bryanthelion:
I saw it again yesterday :)
PacoSees:
Did anyone else have a huuuuge urge to eat pot pies after seeing this movie?
I'm gonna go see if AmPm has any...
Trillian:
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I suppose I can see where you are coming from, but frankly I don't really agree with what you are saying. I would say that the recent trends are more likely adopting Tim Burton's work because it suits the overall nature of what they are going for. To say that Tim Burton is catering to that group of people is just...well wrong. He has been doing his own thing for so many years, even when he was ridiculed as being too over the top. He wrote a book of short stories called The Melancholy Death of Oyster Boy (some of which can be read here http://homepage.eircom.net/~sebulbac/burton/home.html) and has been making movies since 1990. I just think that to say he is making decisions based solely off of a certain demographic is silly, especially when all of his work is dripping with morbidity and is almost always macabre. If his style took a turn toward these things later in his career after that sub-group emerged, then maybe I could see that as being more valid. I am not "faux-goth" or whatever off-shoot of emo that might wear Jack Skellington merch whenever humanly possible, but I do appreciate Burton's morbid sense of reality. Not everyone that enjoys Tim Burton's movies are going to be a part of that sub-culture, much like myself, so it is a fallacy to generalize to such an extreme. Not only this, but his wit and sense of irony often are geared more toward people of a more "average" persuasion. For example, with Edward Scissorhands. Tim Burton was (very ironically) ridiculing conformity and pointing out that most of us are very insincere in our acceptance of that which is different.
--- Quote from: RedLion on 16 Dec 2007, 12:36 ---Todd is supposed to have a gruff, booming voice, he is supposed to be a somewhat larger man--not fat, but large, imposing. Johnny Depp is the exact opposite of all of that. Hearing him singing "Epiphany" in the trailer made me want to cut off my ears to stop the pain. The whole thing is bullshit, plain and simple.
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I have seen several smaller men play Todd, and I don't think that the performance was lacking for it. If you don't like his voice though, then there is no helping that. I think my favorite portrayals of Todd have been those that show him as being an imposing man because of the way he carries himself, not because of physical size. In any written depiction of Sweeney Todd I suppose I never saw a very physically formidable man. Always a man that impressed everyone with his wit and his abilities as a jack of all trades. Plus Ben Kingsley played Todd in a non-musical version of the story, and I thought he did quite a wonderful job. Kingsley is not exactly a big dude, but he IS a fantastic actor.
As far as Sweeney Todd the motion picture goes, I adored it. Of course you always will have to take into consideration that the adaptation of a stage production to the screen is going to be a little wonky, but I think that it was executed rather well. Particularly in this instance, as the music is rather difficult, especially for those that do not do this sort of thing professionally. I must confess that I did not have very high hopes for Johnny Depp's singing voice, so I was definitely pleasantly surprised. Plus I could not imagine better actors to work with Burton: Helena Bonham-Carter, Johnny Depp, and Alan Rickman (his speaking voice makes me swoon). Overall, it is win. I continue to appreciate Burton's contributions.
Liz:
Ah, it's finally coming to Fargo on Friday. I am a happy girl. Also I just got the soundtrack and would like to add that I think Johnny Depp's singing voice is surprisingly good. He'll never star on Broadway, no, but he could sing for me any day.
captain zoe:
--- Quote from: Trillian on 14 Jan 2008, 22:32 ---Plus Ben Kingsley played Todd in a non-musical version of the story, and I thought he did quite a wonderful job. Kingsley is not exactly a big dude, but he IS a fantastic actor.
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Did he really? On stage or on film? If it's the latter I really need to check that out.
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