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Sweeney Todd
Renfamous:
--- Quote from: Ocarina654 on 29 Nov 2007, 16:01 ---To me this just seems to be another wave on the pop-culture phenomenon that has become Johnny Depp and Tim Burton worship. It all seemed to start when this whole "faux-goth" (offshoot of emo) thing started to get big these last few years.
The Nightmare Before Christmas re-emmerged as a popular film because of this movement, and Tim Burton is seen as a dark, and therefore appealing, director to this specific demographic.
And of course, with Depp as Sparrow in PotC, his popularity soars because they are good movies, and he does give a good performance, but everything gets blown out of proportion because "OMG JOHNNY DEPP IS HAWT" and he played a "dark" character in Edward Scissorhands, which, surprise, surprise, has some new popularity and merchandise just like TNBC.
Corpse Bride was, I thought, the culmination of this trend, namely, a Tim Burton/Johnny Depp movie, made to ride this wave even more because it featured the same stop-motion claymation that TNBC did.
Sweeny Todd appears to just be a continuation of this.
Tim Burton + Johnny Depp + Dark/Disturbed Character = Whinny faux-goth teens flock to the theaters in droves and add said character to the pop-culture hall-of-fame although its really not that great of a movie.
I don't think I really articulated this great, but oh well.
By the way, I'm not saying Tim Burton and Jonny Depp aren't talented, nor am I saying I don't enjoy their work. But, from what I've seen (Namely, those four years I spent in High School and all the time I spend online) they're way Overrated.
This thread doesn't help that imagine.
All that said, I didn't know Sweeny Todd was a play before a movie, and with that knowledge I know realize that this may actually have something going for it. Maybe not, but maybe.
Plus I love Alan Rickman.
Going to see the movie? Likely yes.
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Johnny Depp and Tim Burton are both fantastic in their respective professions..I don't think they should stop collaborating because the emo kids have adopted Jack Skellington as their messiah. I personally think Johnny Depp's greatest character was Raoul Duke in 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' which wasn't (as far as I know) a Tim Burton vehicle, but I still like what they've done together. They're just buddies who like making movies with each other and can apparently make a killing doing so and selling the merch at Hot Topic...just because the goth kids like Edward Scissorhands doesn't make it a bad movie.
In this case it could just be people liking good movies because they're good and not because they're 'dark/disturbing/Tim Burton'. I'll give you that the Corpse Bride wasn't a masterpiece, but it was still pretty cool and I bet Tim Burton enjoyed using the stop motion medium again. Many of Johnny Depp's characters are angsty and 'dark' I suppose, but from what I've seen he's got a fantastic range and he never goes out of the way to try to be some big screen sex bomb...the 12-year-old girls just idolize Jack Sparrow in the same way the 15-year-old emos idolize Jack Skellington.
Personally I couldn't care less why anyone else likes or goes to a movie or how high they rank it in the pop-culture hall of fame..I'd rather just see it for myself.
Snape + Marla + Raoul? Yes plox.
De_El:
From 5 reviews, Sweeney Todd's gotten a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Encouraging.
Lines:
--- Quote from: Renfamous on 03 Dec 2007, 23:19 ---I personally think Johnny Depp's greatest character was Raoul Duke in 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' which wasn't (as far as I know) a Tim Burton vehicle
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That movie was directed by Terry Gilliam, who is another fantastic director.
And no offense, but if you don't like something just because Hot Topic mall rats idolize it, get over it. I still like Tom Burton's work even though I saw some mall-goth teen girl hug a Nightmare Before Christmas t-shirt while saying, "Tim Burton is a GOD."
KvP:
I don't care what anyone says, you can't have Sweeney Todd without the ballad of its namesake. I'll pass.
Drill King:
Considering a little over half of my play list is music from musicals. You know that I go and see every musical adaption film, not to mention every stage musical I can see(small town), not to mention auditioning for two musicals this week.
Also considering the fact, I fucking love Tim Burton as a designer, artist, and director, I am sooo excited. Personally I love Johnny Depp, however I agree with whoever said that the fangirl teenager ladies make me embarrassed to say I like his work.
Also, Sweeney Todd has one of my favorite scores, I've always wanted to see it on stage.
A couple musical buff friends and I are counting down the days.
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