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KharBevNor:
I like Sunn, but I have to be in the right mood.

And by 'right mood' I mean 'really stoned'.

corwinzor:

--- Quote from: DynamiteKid on 01 Nov 2007, 16:37 ---

Neil Young aside from that live album I reviewed.


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Man, even Everybody Knows this is Nowhere? That album is awesome!

jimbunny:
I'll admit that after the first movement, I can't help but find the rest of Brahms' 4th a bit of a letdown. What a Philistine, I know.

But really, how do you follow something like that?

Thrillho:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves on 04 Nov 2007, 17:17 ---I guess we'll just have to come to terms with our tragic inability to truly appreciate music. Maybe one day...


--- Quote from: DynamiteKid on 04 Nov 2007, 08:23 ---It's weird, because I'm really liking Ashes Of Empires by comparison but it's Burn My Eyes that people usually seem to think is the classic.

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'Burn My Eyes' hasn't aged all that well I don't think. It's too much of its time and a lot comes across as cheesy now. 'Davidian' is saved by having that absolutely massive beatdown, which even if it has been ripped off a million times is still a nice bit of chug and prompts me to skid about the kitchen in my socks and windmill the toaster. What I heard from 'Ashes of Empires' did not promote such behaviour, in fact it didn't really seem like my cup of tea, but I can really see why you'd prefer it.

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Context has never been a problem for me, I listen to virtually anything from virtually any time. I think it's more the lack of variety. The recent stuff they've done seems to have more melodic and thrash and other influences in there, whereas the first album is just kind of balls-to-the-wall all the way through and it's kind of like being just bludgeoned for 50 minutes, and not in the good way that metal or hardcore normally does it.

John Curtin:

--- Quote from: jimbunny on 05 Nov 2007, 08:28 ---I'll admit that after the first movement, I can't help but find the rest of Brahms' 4th a bit of a letdown. What a Philistine, I know.

But really, how do you follow something like that?

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You can't get into the finale?!  I mean, yeah I can understand finding the middle movements a bit of a drag, but damn.  Sit down, shut the door, put the final movement on and just listen and let it take you away.  Turn it up loud.  It's pretty much the epitome of tragedy explained in ten minutes.  Every section of the orchestra is basically weeping over some unknown horrific future event that seems totally inevitable.  There's the half-speed sugary section, but I think it just adds to the terror I think, because it's as though the orchestra accepts its fate and does it so calmly and with such grace.  And then those destructive opening chords come back stronger than the first time, ripping the idyll to shreds and it's like the orchestra decides, no, fuck that, let's fight this even though we know we can't win.  There's this kind of horrifying optimism and a perverse calmness amidst the violence in the race to the end.

Yeah, this is pretty much my favourite moment in Brahms.  I was lucky enough to play Brahms 4 earlier this year and it was pretty draining and invigorating at the same time.  So good.

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