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Patrick:
Depending on how much flesh has rotted away from the zombie's body by the time it's reanimated, you may or may not get a good spinal cord shot. I mean, how many people on earth, even specially trained snipers, are such perfect shots that they can hit a spinal cord sized target?

Srsly, if the flashback sniper mission on COD4 is any indicator of just how difficult it is to aim from a distance (with wind and Coriolis effect and all), you ain't gonna be hitting SHIT.

Ozymandias:
Nodaisho. I wish I could be there when you get ate because of gung-ho dickwaving I MUNNA SHOOT THE DANGED Ol' ZOMBIES HURR HURR HURR HURR.

Nodaisho:

--- Quote from: KimJongSick on 03 Feb 2008, 00:10 ---Depending on how much flesh has rotted away from the zombie's body by the time it's reanimated, you may or may not get a good spinal cord shot. I mean, how many people on earth, even specially trained snipers, are such perfect shots that they can hit a spinal cord sized target?

Srsly, if the flashback sniper mission on COD4 is any indicator of just how difficult it is to aim from a distance (with wind and Coriolis effect and all), you ain't gonna be hitting SHIT.

--- End quote ---

Note the range that you were shooting at: Over a mile, as I recall. Normal people shoot out to 600 yards just fine, granted, that is a body shot, but that is also with irons, a good optic on top will make it better, and with the terrain out here, you will be within 600 yards and still have to walk a lot more than 600 yards, and zombies are clumsy, I wouldn't be surprised to see them slip and fall trying to walk up shale rather than go around.

Ozymandias: I wish I could be there when you learn some fucking reading comprehension. Seriously, throughout the thread, I have said that you aren't trying to kill them all, you are just trying to survive, and the best way to do that is to stay away from them. Shooting is what happens when something goes wrong. Fighting hand to hand is what happens when something goes even more wrong.

edit: Realized I didn't cover all of Pat's points, you wouldn't be aiming for the spinal cord, you would be aiming for the head, because the speed would cause shock to the tissue, stretching it and messing it up bad, most tissue is resistant to damage from stretching like that, but nervous tissue isn't. A head is about a 4 or five inch square target, right? So... with a good rifle, if you are a good shot, and have good ammo, you should be able to make it out around 600m, but as I am, I couldn't make a shot like that. Someone that is a decent shot could, and I could with practice, but I couldn't do so immediately. However, I also couldn't kill zombies hand to hand well immediately, and it is not nearly as bad to miss a shot at a few hundred meters as it is to not dodge a zombie grabbing you.

KharBevNor:
I've just got this image of him now, with jewellers glasses on, carefully sticking new percussion caps in some spent cartridges, whilst hundreds of zombies claw at the walls.

He finishes a bullet, he carefully loads it into a gun. He walks over to the window. He shoots a single zombie. He returns to the workbench.


Seriously, dude, the thing is, I'm not going to be taking on groups of hundreds of zombies. Not deliberately. The shield wall is for steady, safe urban and suburban movement, not rolling up swarms.

And dude, I've used guns. I know how to clear a jam. I also know that if there was a group of ten zombies ten feet away and all I had to defend myself was a rifle that the last thing I would want is one. I've used them enough to know that the kind of reliability you're claiming for them is insane in post-apocalyptic conditions. Those figures may be accurate for guns that are kept in good, constant conditions and regularly maintained. But fuck man. That is not the zombie apocalypse. I actually feel kind of sorry for you if this situation does actually occur. I'll be prepared to admit that my experiences could be coloured by having used British weapons, which are likely to be older and maybe less well made than the guns you have access to in freedom eagle land (I'm guessing you're American because of the enormous boner you have for firearms) but only to a certain degree. Guns are delicate machines, and the more modern they are (thus better made, with more synthetic materials, less chance of mechanical faults, etc.) the harder it will be to repair. And drizzle? Boy, it's the zombocalypse. Cities are burning. Nuclear power plant safety technicians are away from their consoles eating your grandma. oil tanker crews are dead at the wheel. Pipelines are filling refineries till they burst. Seriously, light drizzle is probably the last of your worries. Weeks of acid rain leading into a mini nuclear winter? That's more like it.

Also, er, I hate to break it to you, but stainless steel does rust. Especially stainless steel exposed to constant mechanical wear. The chromium forms a protective passivation layer, but rust can still get underneath that, unless the steel is regularly cleaned and polished. It feels kinda like telling a kid there's no father christmas, but there you go.

Ozymandias:
Noddy, good luck.

I don't know how you're going to stay away from zombies with all of the ammo and ammo making supplies and military grade rifle and blah blah blah blah blah because any "base" you've managed to set up to do this in is a death trap, if not from zombies, from dehydration and starvation.

But good luck.

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