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plans for the inevitable undead uprising
Jimmy the Squid:
--- Quote from: Anyways on 05 Feb 2008, 07:57 ---Why is it a waste of space? Even the shittiest gun gives you several shots at range, whereas a melee weapon always requires you to get up and close. I don't see why you guys are all shutting into the "guns are fucking useless!" mentality because even though they might attract more zombies, in a last resort situation, you'll thank Azathoth you brought one.
And it's not as if a Beretta M9 takes a lot of space, or weighs a lot.
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It's mainly because the only type of gun I can hold without my hands shaking is a rifle and therefore heavy (heavier than a handgun at least) and as I've mentioned before, my vision is not great at anything over about 50m. For some reason I am way more comfortable and accurate with a bow. Besides, living in Australia and pretty much in the middle of the city I, like Est, would probably not be able to get hold of a gun anyway and would most likely fall during the first hours of the zombie attack. Of course, the door to my apartment is fairly sturdy, the balconey of my room is easily 15-19 feet off of the ground with a pit dropping down a further 3 feet below normal ground level and nothing to climb nearby (not that zombies have great motor function) and the balconey that looks out over the street is fronted by a corrugated iron awning with a slightly less than 10 foot drop. I could probably hole up for a few days if I kept a low profile and try to make a break for it when the roads and the smoke has cleared.
It's not so much of a "guns are useless" mentality but rather a "guns are tricky hard practically impossible to get hold off in this country if you're not in the military or a farmer. I've never used one and will probably never get the chance, they are barely even worth thinking about. I suppose my best bet would be to find transportation and get as far out of the city as possible. The main problem with that plan though is that eventually you will hit the desert and I don't know about you guys but I will probably die out there. Cranky and uncomfortable.
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 05 Feb 2008, 08:09 ---Because if you're "at range," you likely shouldn't be engaging to begin with. A gun might be useful in certain close quarters upon initial escape, but once you're on the move, you should be avoiding areas where you could potentially be trapped by a zombie anyway. Once you're holed up, you'd be better off with a compound bow of some sort as the ammo isn't nearly as finite and is generally reusable.
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Pretty much, I don't want to sound like I have tickets on myself but hand me a compound bow and my glasses and I could probably take down a couple of zombies if I had to (between running for my fucking life) and I could probably have a shot at hunting as well. Oh god I made a pun.
Alex C:
I get what JimmyTheSquid is saying; he sucks with guns and they're out of the question anyway. What I don't get is how is the ammo on a compound bow is supposed to not nearly be so finite. Compounds put a an awful lot of force on their arrows; you need to get used to maintaining the arrows because the shafts won't be in the best of shape after colliding with something fairly solid- I've seen carbon fiber arrows get bent up from glancing the shoulder blades of deer, so I'm pretty certain that a zombie skull (assuming you're good enough to hit such a relatively small moving target and retrieve the arrow in the first place) will qualify for being solid enough to end up in a damaged shaft. I guess I'm just all kinds of skeptical on this one, especially since broadheads weigh about 80-125 grains (not counting the shaft) while a 30.06 or .308 ammunition weighs about about 125-150 grains and is far less bulky than any arrow. I have no idea what would work best between target points and broadheads though; target points aren't heavy at all but I have doubts if they'd have the mass needed to deal much damage while broadheads are heavy enough but designed to make things bleed.
0bsessions:
Let me put it this way:
Get two random guys off the street. Tell one you want him to make you fifty 9 MM rounds and the other you want him to make fifty arrows. Who do you think will be finished first?
I sure as shit couldn't make a bullet of any sort, but give a guy a knife and a hatchet (Two things you would likely want to bring with you anyway) and he should be able to cobble together makeshift arrows without too much work.
Jimmy the Squid:
It is not an ideal situation but all I am saying is that if it came down to me having to use a projectile weapon, I'd fair better with a bow than with a gun. Also human bone is not quite as dense as deer bone (I looked it up!) so depending on range a target point could probably pierce bone and brain. Broadheads would be better for hunting for food and I'd be going for the neck anyway, it just seems logical.*
EDIT: Jon, I would guess that the majority of the initial attempts at arrowmaking would result in shattered arrows as soon as you release the string.
*I have no hunting experience. I have no plans to get hunting experience. Oh well.
0bsessions:
Yeah. I figure you're better off with that than mangling your gun trying to use home made bullets.
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