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jhocking:
I never said it was a bad thing. I was disputing your claim that one needs to be a well-trained warrior in order to survive.

Nodaisho:

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--- Quote from: calenlass on 05 Feb 2008, 13:48 ---What do you do then? Go veggie?

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Yeah I'm with Jon, if there's cross-species contamination, I am killing myself and looking like a badass motherfucker doing it. No flesh, no food, PERIOD.

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Ring trick?

Melodic, no, the MP7 does not have rifle range or power. It has less than pistol capability for creating a wound channel, less than pistol force, less than rifle range (I think about magnum pistol range, 150-200 yards), and a lot of hype by people that have watched future weapons. I won't volunteer to stand still and get shot at by it, but same goes for BB guns, and I am not taking one of those as a weapon other than a club. It can pierce armor, sure, but you aren't worrying about body armor on a zombie, since you have to shoot it in the head anyway.

While I have a hammer, I would not take it over a baseball bat, it has less reach than a bat, the sledgehammer we have lying around has more, but it also weighs a lot more, I can make quicker strikes with a bat. Another aspect is that I know that bat like the back of my hand, I know precisely where the sweet spot will impact, while I don't know the reach of the hammer that well. The only advantage of the hammer is the ability to put it on your belt. Granted, that is good, since you don't have a bottomless inventory, but I would try to figure out a good way to carry the bat.

Melodic:
Admittedly I was exaggerating when I said that a PDW has the same pros as a traditional assault rifle like the M16, but I stay by support of the MP7 as the perfect anti-zombie weapon. It has a range of about 200m, which is what I'd call maximum range for zombie-hunting, because engaging at anything longer than that against a target that is effectively the size of a baseball is a waste of ammunition (unless you bring out the big-caliber guns and decide to literally tear the undead apart from outwards of a mile). And, quite frankly, if slow, shambling corpse-eaters were over 200 meters away, I wouldn't give a damn trying to kill them anyways: they aren't my problem.

And while the 4.6mm round IS primarily an armor-piercing round, it carries twice the ballistic velocity of traditional pistols (more than three times that of the Colt 1911), and it seems like zombies don't really care how BIG the hole in their head is, as long as it's there. Even so, I'm fairly certain that if I was up against the undead and managed to find me an MP7, I'd find some spoon-tip rounds to blast big empties.

The best reason I can come up with for the MP7 being my weapon of choice is its size: I'd really hate to think that I'd be cornered by slow zombies in the middle of Times Square, or in an open field: if I'm getting jumped by the undead, it will be indoors and in close spaces. I can pump an awful lot of 4.6 into a zombie when he bursts out of a closet, but if I was carrying an M16, it would just get in the way.

est:
Why are you guys talking about engaging zombies from a distance?  Why not just run?

In the event of a zombie holocaust my priorities would be:
- getting the fuck away from zombies
- trying to contact my loved ones to see if they are ok/need help
- getting the fuck away from zombies
- protecting myself from other, less benevolent survivors
- eking out a meagre existence as far away from any fucking zombies as I can manage

A short list of things not included:
- looking really cool
- trying to be a goddamn hero
- fucking about with weapons (other than using them to protect myself if necessary)
- killing lots of zombies to have fun/prove how badass I am

If (and only if) a group of my friends/relatives somehow miraculously survived and we re-settled some place remote and built some kind of fenced/gated/walled village and had to protect it then perhaps I would be interested in taking down approaching zombies from a distance.  Even then I would be far more interested in some kind of pit/moat or finding a more sustainable solution than projectile weaponry.  A corridor of large rotating knives, for example.

est:
I didn't make myself clear.  I am not disparaging taking a pistol as a ranged weapon, I agree that having a pistol would be aces.  I don't have any access to one so I can't even begin to think about using one, but if I did then I would.  I am trying to say that talk of using bows and arrows or submachine guns against zombies far enough away that you could avoid them is crazytalk.

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