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KharBevNor:
Even the best top 40 pop song is like a fish that lives in an ocean of piss. You don't want to touch that sucker unless you really need to. Most people just don't know its piss. Because...ok, fuck analogies. Popular music of all genres has sucked roughly since the mid 80's. I would say the terminal decline begins in 83 or 84 and bottoms in 87, maybe there is a slight increase in quality in the very early 90's, but basically by 1994 every new song you will hear on the radio sucks. This is the situation we are in today.

monkandmovies13:
The thing is, once music that's not your average top 40 music gets around and well known, people who listen to that top 40 stuff mostly like it. I don't really have any friends who are music geeks like me, and they listen to Rihanna and Sean Paul and whoever. But when I give them some Andrew Bird or some Neutral Milk Hotel, they really really like it. And everytime I've seen a song be used in a commercial or TV show or something where people who normally wouldn't listen to that type of music are able to hear it, it gets a great response. Like Feist or Ingrid Michaelson or Sufjan Stevens.

And FYI Sleepercylon, I listen to a huge variety of music and I almost never think of anything I listen to in techincal terms. I'm never like "Oh great chord progression!" or "The instrumentation is so complex!" or "That riff is so well executed and and creative in they way it moves around the pentatonic scale!" Contrary to what you believe, I don't think that there should be a "thought process" in realizing which music you like. When you break music down into technecalities and start deciding why you should like something or not like it, it takes away a lot of the magic. When I hear a song I like, I don't want to waste time deciding why I enjoy it. I could be using that time just enjoying it.

amok:

--- Quote from: monkandmovies13 on 18 Nov 2007, 12:53 ---I listen to a huge variety of music and I almost never think of anything I listen to in techincal terms. I'm never like "Oh great chord progression!" or "The instrumentation is so complex!" or "That riff is so well executed and and creative in they way it moves around the pentatonic scale!" Contrary to what you believe, I don't think that there should be a "thought process" in realizing which music you like. When you break music down into technecalities and start deciding why you should like something or not like it, it takes away a lot of the magic. When I hear a song I like, I don't want to waste time deciding why I enjoy it. I could be using that time just enjoying it.

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Hear hear. I don't know the first goddamn thing about music theory but I know what I like.

Kai:
Oh god. This is not going to turn into a music theory thread. I refuse to let it.

KharBevNor:
Fuck that.

What I've always loved is how people tend to have absolutely no problem with elitism in the visual arts, or film, but will defend chart pop music till they die. This sort of hypocrisy is most noticeable in journalists from New York. It's a stupid position. When you defend chart music, you are saying that there is as much merit in 2 Fast 2 Furious as Man With a Movie Camera.

Think about that whenever you say that a Britney Spears song is 'not that bad' or that Justin Timberlake is 'well crafted'.

Just think.

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