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There Will Be Blood
De_El:
This is what I was gonna say:
"Alien thought the notion may seem, occasionally movies are meant to do more than simply pacify the consumer."
And then I was gonna be all "Jesusfuck I'm being pretentious. Beg pardon."
But now I think I kinda stand by it.
thebrosef:
--- Quote from: MusicScribbles on 18 Feb 2008, 16:07 ---As far as the soundtrack for There Will Be Blood goes, I really liked it, but I can see how it must have grated for some people, it heightened the experience for me. I liked how the music seemed to go nowhere at all, which seemed to reflect the maddening circles that some of the characters were running in.
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No I guess I could see how the music could add to the experience in that regard. Maybe I was just frustrated enough with the characters that the music just got on my nerves instead of serving another purpose. Also I watched the movie on my laptop because of torrents it is a movie theater, so I was listening through headphones. So the really hi pitched 2 violin notes over and over were aggravating.
Liz:
--- Quote from: JazzyJoe on 18 Feb 2008, 17:42 ---Actually Scribbles I went into the movie with high hopes and simply wanting to be entertained... I have no idea why anyone would see a movie for another reason. Classic case of good actors in a bad movie.
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You are like my mother. She justs wants entertainment. If she ever has to put an ounce of thought into a movie it is pretty much guaranteed that she will not like it. And she asks questions. Usually I am watching with her and I have to answer them.
When I go to a movie, I am expecting some level of entertainment, but if a movie can really make me think I just love it that much more.
SevenPinkerton:
I'm really overly sensitive to loud noises and so the music right off made me cringe way past my comfort levels. Looking back, it set the mood just about right for the movie. But anymore of it and I would have had a massive headache.
JaneBriefcase:
--- Quote from: SevenPinkerton on 18 Feb 2008, 08:29 ---I really disagree with Paul Dano being miscast. You compare his leadership to that of Adolf Hitler and other huge political figures. This is a small isolated village, not an entire country. The man does not need the charisma of a superhero to gain spiritual popularity in new pioneer town out in the middle of nowhere. He has the ability to convince everyone, if not even himself, of his spirituality and intense connection with God, all while being a kind, soft spoken farm boy. His father didn't necessarily "see through him," but knew the guy was a bit off and prone to passionate outbursts, something he did in church on a regular basis. Which church figure isn't prone to passionate outbursts?
I thought it was perfect. Loud and charismatic wouldn't have worked for his character. The silent, creepiness of the character was far more convincing for the setting.
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I didn't compare him to all huge political figures, but I think you're missing the point. All huge political figures and talking heads come from humble beginnings. No person just outright becomes a huge leader. If you look at small cases of the same behavior, the leader of these small offset religious groups are charismatic--people are drawn to them they want to follow them. You don't need to be a superhero or a huge political figure to gain followers, you just have to have the personality to do so. I don't think in that situation, I was convinced by his character that he was that person. I don't think anyone around him would buy it either.
For me, the fact that people believed his spiritual connection with god and intensity in the movie seemed very very false to me. I understand that you do, but I feel that in that situation, outside of a movie context, I really feel like nobody would buy it.
You Said: "Which church figure isn't prone to passionate outbursts?"
The successful ones are prone to meaningful outbursts, they understand how their actions gain trust and following from others, they are great manipulators. Paul Dano's character's manipulations are just so un-threatening. They're undermined by anyone in the movie with a sense of reality. I really don't think someone like that would've gained the amount of followers that he did by the end of the film. You can tell that his influence has supposedly grown far past his "spiritual popularity in new pioneer town out in the middle of nowhere"
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