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Saul Williams and Trent Reznor team up to single-handedly destroy rap music.
KvP:
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--- Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 30 Nov 2007, 17:14 ---So he was an asshole, then, is what you're saying?
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All slam poets are assholes. Including me, when I was one. That's part of the reason I quit; the audience is so hoodwinked into thinking that these people on stage, who are generally alcoholics, druggies*, misogynists, backstabbing gossips, cold-blooded calculating game-players, or just plain batshit crazy, are really deep, spiritually enlightening and amazing people just because of the piece they're performing. I can't even tell you the number of poets I've known who outright admitted that a piece of theirs wasn't even based on something that actually happened (such as one poet who did a piece about one of his highschool students coming to him for advice about how she was being sexually abused at home, and was a real heartstring-puller and presented as truth, when in fact it was totally and absolutely made-up).
*NB: Not that I think alcohol or drugs are bad, as I'm enjoying both right now, but you know what I mean.
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I understand what you're saying, and I agree, but I've always tried to think of them as actors. Same with most if not all rappers. I just saw Bernard Dolan in concert and he was really good, not because what he said was true, I didn't care if it was true-to-life just as I don't necessarily care if a song is true-to-life, but because his delivery was fiery and passionate. It was impressive to behold. Then I met him afterwards, and yes, he was an asshole. But still, I have to give a measure of respect to someone who can get up onstage and recite something they've written. I don't think I could.
And to be brutally honest, I don't place Saul Williams that high above Zach de la Rocha as far as his "truth-telling" goes. I just happen to think the records he puts out are at least interesting from a musical standpoint.
Clobbersaurus:
sounds like a fantastically horrible car-crash.
i'm going to go rubberneck on slsk.
Spinless:
I don't know a thing about this album except that they're giving it away for free. That wins brownie points from me.
Also, rap is dismissed far more often than metal on this forum, which, in all honesty is largely a forum of metal fans. Which is odd, given that it's associated with a comic that's about indie pop music.
KharBevNor:
Whatever your opinions on metal and rap, at least metal doesn't promote misogyny, violence and racism!
...oh fuck.
Storm Rider:
--- Quote from: Spinless on 01 Dec 2007, 14:37 ---Also, rap is dismissed far more often than metal on this forum, which, in all honesty is largely a forum of metal fans.
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'Largely' my ass. Remember the battle of the bands we held a year ago or so? You and Tommy were saying the same thing back then, and then like 2 metal bands made it past the first round.
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