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imapiratearg:
(Move this thread if it belongs somewhere else, please.)

I would like a new mp3 player for Christmas, since my old one broke.  Mostly what I want is something that is at least 30GB in storage, is rugged, and is easy to use.  My first choice right now is Microsoft's Zune, but I know no one who has one, and I have only read a Yahoo! article on them, and the customer reviews on BestBuy.com.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Oh, and I DON'T want an iPod.  I fucking hate them.

Spinless:
if you hate iPods, why would you want a Zune?

Spinless:
Tommy, I disagree, they're trendy as hell and every motherfucker on the planet has one. Y'know who else was a motherfucker? Hitler. I bet Hitler would own an iPod.
Plus I HATE iTunes because it is the opposite of user friendly, and it sometimes ask for updates.

You should tell me what a compelling argument FOR the iPod is, then I'll consider it!

TheFuriousWombat:
If you hate ipods for the annoying "apple/ipods" suck reason that most people have (which are 95% of the time without any basis or experience at all) you really aught to reconsider. I've owned a variety of MP3 players from a variety of companies and the iPods I've owned have been the most organized, most reliable and most streamlined of them all. If you've had bad experiences with iPods that's one thing but if you hate them for no reason, stop being so snobby and try 'em out.
Also, since when did something being "trendy" detract from its quality. No offense, but that's the stupidest fucking reason for not wanting something. It's popular b/c it's a good device. I've also found iTunes to be quite user friendly. You can look at updates whenever you want, you can disable the "asks for updates" feature very easily, you can arrange music pretty much any way you want and it gives you lots of options for burning/ripping CDs.

Spinless:
There are valid reasons for not getting an iPod, such as disliking iTunes. And wanting the support of lossless media files. And...uhm...
Wanting buttons that click?

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