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Inlander:
If you're going to contribute to the discussion, can you please do so in an intelligent manner? Thankyou!

Liz:
My favorite part of the page is the "praise for Will Sheff here" link at the top.

Johnny C:

--- Quote from: Inlander on 04 Dec 2007, 19:05 ---No indeed, but nor should we look the other way when something disturbs us just because we like the band.

--- End quote ---

I agree, but


--- Quote from: Johnny C on 04 Dec 2007, 18:35 ---sometimes it's probably intended to cause discomfort.

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Art provokes an awful lot of reactions, sometimes horrified. I know, blah blah blah Wikipedia but I think it can be argued that the titular character of Black Sheep Boy, among others, probably falls squarely into that article's frame of reference.

This is a Good Discussion, by the way.

Ishotdanieljohnston:
I think when you have too worry is when such songs have an anthemnic quality, whci could inspire listeners to think "yeah! Lets go rape and kill some bitches!" I can hardly imagine Okkervil River's music having such a potentially dangerous effect on it's listeners. But it is complex, sometimes lyrically demanding music, whci has no sugar coated ideals in the lyrics. They can be violent and they can be challenging- but i would struggle to believe the most etreme of the lyrics support Sheff's own views. I mean, Black Sheep Boy is about Tim Hardin, who died thirty years ago, and fictionalises his fall into heroine addiction, it is not an album about Will Sheff.

Johnny C:
More important, it's an exploration of the humanity behind that descent - the complexity, the nuance, the blurring of right and wrong and the emotions that come with it all. Joy, heartbreak, anger, desperation; it's all there, all glorious in its celebration of what makes us human.

God damn it now I just want to listen to some God damned Okkervil River.

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