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Tom:
We could always say broad or diverse, those to are far from being pretentious.

ruyi:
those are all relative terms. the point is the intent in using those terms, and usually it is one of pretention.

how much of the music you listen to only uses the 12-tone scale? how much of it is in 4/4 time? how much of it relies on the same chord progressions? how much of it is based on electronic manipulation, be it synthesizing or amplification? western/u.s. musical ideas may be the most dominant/popular/whatever in terms of social capital, but that hardly stops it from being homogenous.

Alex C:
I never understood why people got to go around hatin' on adjectives. If someone's being a dick, just punch them. For your sake and the sake of words trapped in abusive relationships everywhere.

ALoveSupreme:

--- Quote from: Leinad on 07 Dec 2007, 22:58 ---Ok, a) P!ATD sucks so much balls, they put glory holes out of style. B) They are signed with Decaydence, brain child of Pete Wents who plays in *shudders* Fall Out Boy. Third, Paramore is signed by FueledbyRamen, which is either a spring-off of Decaydence, or a something. Third, the Killers kick-ass, don't diss.

Oh, and I like Paramore, they just sure as fuck aren't indie.

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Fueled by Ramen has been around for at least 10 years, and Pete Wentz' label has been around since he has become famous, so maybe a couple years.  This knowledge is what you get for growing up near the well-to-do suburbs of Chicago.

But what does any of this have to do with indie?


--- Quote from: zerodrone on 07 Dec 2007, 12:46 ---Not really, since even Pitchfork cream themselves every time T.I. puts out a new single.


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I did not know this, but I thought pitchfork wrote a lot of articles that were not genuine, or something...

And I'd like to state that while I have heard of Nas and T.I., I have never actually heard them.

kablaaamo:

--- Quote from: mfpole on 07 Dec 2007, 15:57 ---Yeah guys, Illmatic is amazing.
And please go listen to Jawbreaker.

And as far as indie goes, it seems to be emerging as a pretty popular term in my school. Panic! at the Disco, the Killers, and even this band Paramore are now suddenly indie. Maybe a new term will come to describe the more eclectic music tastes that I and many of you have, as so happened previously with alternative?

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Paramore....ow ow ow. My roommates were watching MuchMusic the other day, the video for one of their songs came on and holy crap they are bland.

....and regardless of the adjective you use, to me words like broad/diverse/eclectic signify the sort of person who says 'oh, I like everything!' Chances are solid that no, no you don't. I've never understood what's wrong with having focused taste and knowing specifically what you like. Being closed-minded and a jerk about it isn't cool, but bragging about being eclectic as a knee-jerk in the other direction isn't cool either.

(Yes, I realize my hypocrisy in saying that you shouldn't be closed-minded while slagging off Paramore in the same post but that band is seriously pretty bad guys.)

And alas, you can't punch out everyone that uses an adjective you disagree with, be it 'eclectic' or 'indie'.

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