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John Gardner's "Grendel"

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Boro_Bandito:
A lot of people don't realize that the 13th Warrior, a book by Micheal Chricton before it was a film, is a Beowulf story mixed with the story of the historical figure Ibn Fadlan's journey to the north to see the barbarian savages.

And as far as Grendel as a movie, I'm glad I haven't seen any of this, that was my favorite book in the required readings for my high school, and I would hate to see it fucked up like Beowulf, which I admit, was a fucking horrible film.

KharBevNor:
I already went over the 13th Warrior thing.

And please, barbarian savages? Actually, that's an interesting little historical point on the vikings. Ibn Fadlans largely responsible for the idea that the Vikings had pure hygeine. He actually calls them unclean because they wash and eat with the same hand and share their wash basins. Bathing every morning was a pretty high standard of cleanliness in the 9th century.

jimbunny:

--- Quote from: Johnny C on 17 Dec 2007, 23:09 ---I saw Paprika this year and it was utterly incredible.

Anyways, Grendel is a marvelous book, but I don't know how comfortable I'd be seeing it made into a proper film. Even as an arthouse flick I think it'd lose something, since half of the novel is just Gardner fucking around.

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Johnny C:
That better be meant as a compliment.

Orbert:
I read "Grendel" back in junior high. It was my introduction into non-normal literature; I thought it was about the coolest damned thing ever, writing Beowulf from the monster's point of view. I don't think a movie based on it could really work, but I still have a thing for that kind of writing. "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" by Tom Stoppard is similar. Secondary or even tertiary characters given a chance to tell their side of the story.

I'd like to read something like "Lord of the Rings" from Pippin's point of view. What the fuck was he thinking half the time? Is he really that much of an idiot? Or maybe Legolas, revealing his thoughts on dealing with a bunch of human, dwarf, and hobbit losers, when he could just take a ship out of there with the rest of his people. And his epic struggle to keep his lust for Aragorn under control.

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