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Misereatur:

--- Quote from: zerodrone on 20 Dec 2007, 05:21 ---I'm just suggesting that listening closely to music and experimenting may produce more interesting results than learning in an academic fashion.
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So someone who learned to play an instrument the "academic fashion" can't experiment and/or listen to music?

Bullshit, dude.

Ballard:
You guys have turned this thread into a debate with all kinds of music terminology and shit. Which I enjoy as much as the next guy.

But you all forget how your first week playing guitar was you trying to fret an open A major and whining about how your fingers hurt. You are totally overwhelming Cory with all this shit and that is the worst thing you can do to a beginning guitarist.

Cor, get the guy to give you a few basic lessons until you feel comfortable with the instrument in your hands, at least. Then teach yourself until you are at a point where you are ready to learn things not outlined in most lessons online or guitar technique books in a non-frustrating manner. This'll take about a year, give or take.

Or you can keep taking lessons from him but honestly, it's half the fun figuring stuff out yourself once you have a basic understanding of the instrument.

Darkbluerabbit:
You can debate lessons good/lessons bad, but it doesn't mean a damn thing because it all depends on the person and the teacher.  For every prodigious person who successfully teaches themself an instrument, you have a person like me who teaches herself completely bass-ackwards and develops godawful technique.  For every great teacher who offers good direction and encourages growth, there's a poor teacher who might not be a bad player, but maybe isn't a good communicator or patient or in possession of any number of traits that make a good instructor.  You don't know what kind of student you'll be until you start trying to learn, and you don't know whether a teacher will be a good fit for you until you try to learn from them. 

Congrats Coreh.  If this is not a sign from the Guitar Gods, it's at least a free way to try a new hobby that could grow to be a lifelong love.  That is a pretty cool thing.  Take the free lessons as long as you feel you're benefiting from them, and by all means dabble around on your own too.  Good luck and rock on. 

IronOxide:

--- Quote from: Bearer on 20 Dec 2007, 20:19 ---Maybe they're overplayed because they are awesome?  But seriously, quite a versatile instrument.  Just imagine if everyone played arch tops instead.  What a crazy world that would be!

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I don't like them as much because they are a 'versatile instrument'. A jack of all trades is a master of none.

Also, while I do think you should do a lot by yourself unless you want to train yourself classical or flamenco or that crazy stuff, you need to have the foundation so you don't fuck yourself up as with everything else. Just like how singers should have some kind of voice training under their belt, because if you don't, there's a good chance you're doing something wrong that will hurt you in the end.

Jackie Blue:

--- Quote from: Misereatur on 21 Dec 2007, 01:44 ---
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 20 Dec 2007, 05:21 ---I'm just suggesting that listening closely to music and experimenting may produce more interesting results than learning in an academic fashion.
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So someone who learned to play an instrument the "academic fashion" can't experiment and/or listen to music?

Bullshit, dude.

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Um.  That's not what I said.

This is what I mean by people arguing with me as though I said one thing when in fact I didn't.

Look at what I said again.  "I'm just suggesting that listening closely to music and experimenting may produce more interesting results..."

In other words I've been giving my opinion based on possibility and personal experience.

Remember, I'm the guy that refuses to say that the Eagles are a "worse" band than Godspeed You! Black Emperor.  So I don't know why you or anyone would think I'd presume to say that taking lessons is "always" worse than teaching yourself.

I personally never had any problems figuring out fretting chords or strumming or phrasing or whatever, so I guess if you can't even do those then yes, lessons would definitely be a good idea.

I think we can stop this stupid debate now and talk more about how big our dicks are what kind of guitars we like to play.

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