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[s]Peter Berg[/s] Pierre Morel confirmed for re-(re-)make of Dune
Rizzo:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 22 Dec 2007, 09:28 ---I think I was also 13 when I first read Dune. I didn't go back and try to read it again until almost a decade later, and still found it boring as all get-out. I was also annoyed at the sheer lack of explanation. What exactly is an "Orange" Catholic church and what does it have to do with bitchy chicks who can control your mind? I feel like a lot of the stuff was just thrown in for "weird" value without a lot of thought.
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Sweet merciful spacechrist you're so incredibly wrong. Now I know opinions can't be wrong but you are, you just are. Lack of explanation? Everything is explained! EVERYTHING. There's an appendix for god's sake. If you don't pick it up from the text you can look it up without even going online. The entire backstory and mythos surrounding Dune is really only surpassed by a few fantasy authors. I wouldn't compare Herbert with Tolkien but there's a similar idea there I think.
but what you said about Brian Herbert is completely true. Nothing since Frank died has been worth piss.
You're still wrong though. It won two of the most recognized scifi awards during the years after it came out too.
HighLordOmega:
I read the first Four books. When they killed GodEmperor Leto I was just bummed out. Haven't read the last ones but I have heard good things.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: Rizzo on 22 Dec 2007, 22:55 ---Sweet merciful spacechrist you're so incredibly wrong. Now I know opinions can't be wrong but you are, you just are. Lack of explanation? Everything is explained! EVERYTHING. There's an appendix for god's sake. If you don't pick it up from the text you can look it up without even going online.
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The copy I read didn't have an appendix. And if I have to go outside the book to look up information on what things in the book means, that's a failing.
It has been quite a while since I read it, but I remember the plot pretty well and I seriously do not remember much explanation for what relation the "Orange Catholic church" had to Christianity or Catholicism at all. I only barely remember there being much exposition in the story proper of the Butlerian Jihad.
But, carry on being a rabid fanboy, that's cool.
jimbunny:
I'm rather comfortable siding with a sizable portion of the sci-fi reading world in saying that you're missing something big.
A detailed explanation of religious practice really isn't necessary within the text of Dune. The amount of information that's suggested but not actually presented in the text is a large part of the reason it's considered such a masterful work in science fiction.
I'm less enthusiastic about the subsequent novels; there, the 'weird' factor does seem to take over at times. But Dune, as far as I'm concerned, is immaculate. It's in the top 5 or 10 books in science fiction, easy.
Jackie Blue:
I understand that a lot of people love Dune, and I'm cool with that. I just didn't like the first one very much.
I also hate the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
For sci-fi, I'm more a fan of Vonnegut, Philip K. Dick, William Gibson, Michael Swanwick, etc. In other words, I really don't like "hard" sci-fi. I like philosophical stories with shiny bits tacked on (and yes, I know Dune has philosophical/political meaning, but it's markedly different than the authors I mentioned above). I think a big part of why I liked Dune Messiah so much more than Dune is that it was more philosophical. Especially the ending. Dear God, what a depressing ending.
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