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Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: Ryder on 31 Dec 2007, 10:26 ---It's a hard life if you don't have some kind of steady income.
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I wish I had rich parents.
Statik:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 30 Dec 2007, 19:32 ---
--- Quote from: jeph on 30 Dec 2007, 19:09 ---Don't most bands make more money off touring and merchandise sales anyway? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
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"Most" bands barely make enough money from a show to make it to the next show.
A band like Radiohead probably makes more money off touring than albums, yes. But "most" bands - 99% at minimum - don't do large tours in expensive venues that sell to capacity.
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Um, isn't this in kind of a recursive loop?
If you agree that musicians (excluding superstars) dont make much money from album sales... and only break even (if they are lucky) off of touring... then how do they make money? How do the members of shitty pop-punk bands and 80s hair metal bands and shit have nice houses with tons of stuff in it?
Bands make money touring (some of the smaller supporting acts may not make very much, but its to get exposure to sell more records, to eventually be a headliner) if making music was a completely losing proposition nowadays, we would see a lot less shitty bands coming out every day. The venues don't make money off of ticket sales, that goes towards paying the bands (in a way). Basically, if I understand what a friend of mine explained to me, the venue promoters agree to pay band A, B and C on tour Q, X Dollars to show up and play a show at a given club / venue. Its now up to the club / venue to make that money back through ticket sales and everything else. The band can then make additional money through merch sales at the show.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: Statik on 31 Dec 2007, 13:01 ---If you agree that musicians (excluding superstars) dont make much money from album sales...
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I didn't say that. Other people did.
Earlier I said one of my ex-bands made $10,000 off an album, without it even selling many copies, and it was pure profit as we recorded it ourselves.
Statik:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 31 Dec 2007, 13:09 ---
--- Quote from: Statik on 31 Dec 2007, 13:01 ---If you agree that musicians (excluding superstars) dont make much money from album sales...
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I didn't say that. Other people did.
Earlier I said one of my ex-bands made $10,000 off an album, without it even selling many copies, and it was pure profit as we recorded it ourselves.
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I know, but you said that was over 2 years, and dont get me wrong, thats not pocket change, but its not a huge amount of money (4 member band = 1250each per year).
I found this by accident, seems quite topical for this thread:
http://www.punknews.org/article/25898
If you dont want to go / read, Ill give you the main point:
"The philosophy I’ve adopted is that if you’re supporting disc sales, you’re keeping the old model around longer…the one that forces dudes like me to tour 9 mos/year if they want to make ends meet with a career in music. If you wanna really support a band, "steal" their album….help bury the label….and buy a tshirt when you show up at their show and sing every word."
So there you go.
Phaedra:
Re: the band shirt debate, I tend to think that culture has become so incestuous and repetitive that you can't really get away with wearing anything, or listening to anything, without someone out there thinking you're a 'tard for it. If you're going to be so self-conscious as to not wear band shirts because of what they 'say' about your tastes, wouldn't that follow for any other article of clothing you'd don? Particularly if it's at all fashionable. Heck, even thrift-store shoppers get branded as being hipsters now.
I say people should wear whatever they want to, and particularly a whole ton of band shirts because they're comfortable and practical and the bands get something back out of you spending money on them, instead of the cash only fuelling some massive fashion corporation. Or so I like to think anyways.
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