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Do you buy music?
Ryder:
Smart as in someone who isn't the teenage girl living next door to you torrenting the newest Black Eyed Peas album.
Y'know, pretty much anyone who's actually in the music scene.
Hat:
I just don't see how you are in any way arguing that artists make money through their shows. I wrote a massive diatribe about how for most bands the entire purpose of touring anywhere is solely promotion, and how a lot of the time they use merch sales as a way of simply breaking even, and that is a satisfactory result because they broke even and got their name out there, except then I realized thats what you were saying anyway, despite your original protest to the contrary.
So maybe you should take a step back, a few deep breaths and figure out just what it is that you're trying to say here.
Ryder:
I'm not sure what you mean, actually...
Album sales aren't everything. If you get big enough to make a few grand touring to support yourself, that's the real goal. Not many people sit back and wait for the money to come rolling in from album sales. But really, if you're big enough, not that much of it goes to you. it's not like record companies take everything, but you can't rely on cds.
Y'know, I don't see why we're at ends about this. You make a valid point as well, but it's always different depending on who you are.
a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: Hat on 02 Jan 2008, 21:34 ---for most bands the entire purpose of touring anywhere is solely promotion
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Is this really how non-DIY bands see things? That's a genuine question, my experience is largely limited to the DIY side of things, with a certain amount of observation and anecdotal evidence from people I've met who work in the industry in one way or another. I just find this way of looking at things bizarre. I make music in order to make music, I play gigs in order to play gigs, I tour in order to tour and the same goes for everyone else I've ever spoken to about it. There's no ulterior motive of building a fan base or selling t-shirts, and I'd find it a bit depressing to be watching a band for whom that was the case.
Thrillho:
Last I checked, you play gigs because you love playing music (as I do), and you tour so that more people can hear you playing music you enjoy so that you can have a wider audience.
It's a twofer, not either.
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