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a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: IronOxide on 02 Jan 2008, 11:13 ---Emo no longer has anything to do with hardcore.
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God damn it, I thought we were over this. Do we need the fourfa.com link stickied at the top of the forum again?
La Quiete, Feint, What Price Wonderland, Mock Heroic, Funeral Diner, Louise Cyphre, Raein, Amanda Woodward, Daitro... I could go on for ages, there are far more emo bands now than there were when the term was coined. The problem with saying 'emo no longer means what it did' is that it simply isn't true, there are thousands of bands worldwide playing emo and referring to themselves as such. You can say it now also has an additional alternative usage but to claim that the previous meaning of the term is somehow redundant is just flat-out wrong.
SeanBateman:
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--- Quote from: Dirk Hopeless on 02 Jan 2008, 10:00 ---You trying to claim that Indie isn't a genre is as bad as Tommy's old campaign to prove that Emo still meant Fugazi.
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Nope, sorry. If "indie" is a genre, what does it sound like? Is "indie rock" the genre that consists of the twelve bands that sound vaguely similar to Dead Cab For Cutie? Is it the ten bands who live in Canada and have all at some point had Kevin Drew crash on their couch? Is it Xiu Xiu? Is it retro-Springsteen Hold Steady type stuff? Is it future-backwards rave-up/pop like The Pipettes, Annie and The Go! Team? Do you think Mogwai sound similar enough to Feist to usefully be included in the same "genre"? Come on, now.
Seriously, tell me what "indie" sounds like. Because as far as I can tell, "indie" comprises about as many very different sounds as it does bands.
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"Indie" sounds like a billion kids listening to the same bands worldwide all simultaneously claiming they aren't hipsters.
Jackie Blue:
It's kind of like how there are still "goth" bands that don't sound like Evanescance and "industrial" bands who don't sound like Nine Inch Nails.
Old genres never die, they just get fucked by the music press.
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 02 Jan 2008, 11:43 ---Is it the ten bands who live in Canada and have all at some point had Kevin Drew crash on their couch?
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You really lowballed this dude. Just sayin'.
sandman263:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 02 Jan 2008, 11:43 ---Nope, sorry. If "indie" is a genre, what does it sound like? Is "indie rock" the genre that consists of the twelve bands that sound vaguely similar to Dead Cab For Cutie? Is it the ten bands who live in Canada and have all at some point had Kevin Drew crash on their couch? Is it Xiu Xiu? Is it retro-Springsteen Hold Steady type stuff? Is it future-backwards rave-up/pop like The Pipettes, Annie and The Go! Team? Do you think Mogwai sound similar enough to Feist to usefully be included in the same "genre"? Come on, now.
Seriously, tell me what "indie" sounds like. Because as far as I can tell, "indie" comprises about as many very different sounds as it does bands.
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I have to agree with Zerodrone here....
--- Quote from: IronOxide on 02 Jan 2008, 11:13 ---Kind of like how all rock produced today is called 'alternative', it's a word that no longer really means what it did before because companies saw a way to make money off of the title and changed what it means.
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While I'm definitely not a fan of the labels and companies that have polluted the music scene with a lot of derivative crap, I don't believe it's right to lay the blame completely at their door. What about the number of bands themselves, with no company attached, or with no company influence, who jump on the label bandwagon?
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