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Jackie Blue:

--- Quote from: sandman263 on 31 Dec 2007, 09:28 ---Here's the end of year lists for eight publications in 1990.

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I think you will notice that 75% of the albums on all those lists were mainstream artists.

So, I'm not sure what your point is now, at all.  Other than proving that in 1990 more critics listened to a more mainstream albums, or admitted to it, than they do now?

I'm not sure what kind of publications you're referring to now.  I was looking more for evidence of underground/indie publications top ten lists, not SPIN, NME and the Village Voice.

I think you're comparing apples to fruitbats.

Kyros:
A year end list is just a list.  A lot of the lists are similar because if an album is truly that awesome, then a lot of people are going to agree and put it on their year end lists.  It has nothing to do with "mainstreamness" or "alternativeness" just the fact that a lot of these people agreed that those were the best albums.

Jackie Blue:
Yep, pretty much.

Thread over.

sandman263:

--- Quote from: Kyros on 31 Dec 2007, 12:59 ---A year end list is just a list.  A lot of the lists are similar because if an album is truly that awesome, then a lot of people are going to agree and put it on their year end lists.  It has nothing to do with "mainstreamness" or "alternativeness" just the fact that a lot of these people agreed that those were the best albums.

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My original theory: a larger number of non-mainstream music should lead to a more diverse selection of end of year lists. However, I believed that this wasn't happening, as the end of year lists I've been exposed to are all converging to the same artists.

My analysis: a quick & dirty & in no way scientific review of mainstream, semi-mainstream and alternative publications that I have been exposed to shows year-end lists to be more divergent than previous. Therefore, my original theory was disproved.

Apologies if most people on the thread didn't understand my original point.



Jackie Blue:

--- Quote from: sandman263 on 31 Dec 2007, 14:43 ---My original theory: a larger number of non-mainstream music should lead to a more diverse selection of end of year lists.

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Then you started from a false premis in the first place.  There's roughly the same amount of "non-mainstream" music now as there has been since, I don't know, the 60s.  The ratio hasn't changed.

I think it's also odd that you seem to imply that if there is more of something, then it logically follows that more of it will be good.

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