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jhocking:

--- Quote from: Johnny C on 03 Jan 2008, 16:36 ---And you fuckers scoffed at me.

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As cringe inducing as that thread is, ode's post in the middle of the last page is epic hilarity.

Inlander:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves on 03 Jan 2008, 17:49 ---The World Service has some fantastic programming

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This raises an interesting conundrum: when they're producing content for the consumption of the world in general, the British media can still come up with some outstanding results: the Guardian Weekly, for instance, is an outstanding publication and probably the best single source for world news in print form, at least in the English language. It's just the media for home-consumption that is so shocking in Britain.

öde:
They're shutting down the world service. Well, trimming it down severely.


--- Quote from: jhocking on 03 Jan 2008, 18:04 ---As cringe inducing as that thread is, ode's post in the middle of the last page is epic hilarity.

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Edit: it's a bit better in the context, I guess. Also now I'm annoyed because I want to bring up more points about the debate but I don't want to drag the subject back up.

Spinless:
Everything Tommy sad is basically true, but the people are plain stupid. And not very good at anything, we tend not to have skills. More than half of our post-16 children will leave school straight away and begin work without pursuing further education. Maybe half the people I know who did pursue further education FAILED.

Surprisingly, they all seem to think that this is a personal problem rather than something than is wrong with the country, even though it seems to affect a large number of the population.
For some reason that I haven't been able to figure out, the British have to be some of the most insecure people in the entire world. They hate what they see in the mirror, but look in every reflective surface, they won't make eye contact with anybody, they look at their feet when they walk. Harry, the girls you see throwing up on the streets with the exposed overhanging stomachs and small outfits? They don't like themselves. They probably don't have any dreams or aspirations other than finding a guy who won't leave her and the kids for some other girl. Similar, the guys you see getting into fights are looking for the exact same thing. They don't seem to think they're capable of achieving anything better.

The nation mentality seems to be 'Well, this is working and I'm not dead yet, why hope for anything better?'
I know that these people have to have some sort of ambition, I just haven't gotten them to talk about it yet. But one day, I will. I swear it.

As much as this is terribly depressing, I'm utterly convinced of it, as it's true for maybe 90% of everybody I have ever met in the UK.

öde:
That is pretty much true, the education system and culture kicks the shit out of you and tells you 'tough' if you complain. But you're too scared to complain and don't really know how to because you're a kid.

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