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gardenhead_:
--- Quote from: Ocarina654 on 12 Jan 2008, 16:29 ---Stop the violence against plant life! Our vegtable brothers and sisters have been oppressed too long. They're lives are as precious as our own and the systematic killing to fill your empty stomachs only empties your heart and soul.
Stop the violence. Eat dirt instead.
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No! What about all the little microbes and stuff that lives in dirt? We can't harm helpless microbes!
And don't even think about trying to separate them from the dirt, which is their habitat.
ALoveSupreme:
I never understood the idea of anti-veganism.
I guess they can be a little obnoxious if you're trying to find a restaurant with one and you're a pathetic McDonald's addict or something. Other than the far-end-of-the-bell-curve militant vegans, what exactly is the problem? They use less resources and when most of our asses are in the hospital from all the greasy meat we've consumed our entire life (not to mention all the bullshit that's put into dairy products), they will be one less person taking up space in the O.R./E.R.
KvP:
I just find veganism to be silly. Vegetarianism, that's fine, since it's grounded in fairly simple utilitarian ethics. Veganism seems to be more about some kind of nebulous "principle of the thing". There's no distinction made between killing an animal for its meat and harvesting its bodily secretions for consumption. Why am I not supposed to eat cheese even if I can be reasonably assured that such cheese wasn't procured through some grave inhuman torture? I've yet to hear an explanation that doesn't extend to an animal's right to be segregated from humans or right to be unused as though their "purpose" was otherwise (as championed by our fine friends in Earth Crisis above). I can agree upon the reasonability of not inflicting pain upon animals. I scoff at the idea of some sort of struggle for rights that goes beyond enforcement of that.
There's the whole health aspect of veganism that I'm ignoring, but I don't really care about that. Most vegans I know speak of their lifestyle as a moral imperative.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: ALoveSupreme on 14 Jan 2008, 21:34 ---what exactly is the problem? They use less resources and when most of our asses are in the hospital from all the greasy meat we've consumed our entire life
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You just answered your own question right there, hoss. Vegetarians and vegans seem, on the whole, to be far more likely to unquestioningly accept any and all information about nutrition that is fed to them (pun intended) when the fact is, we actually know very very little for certain about nutrition and can't explain why some people can eat nothing but white rice their entire life and live to be 100 and in perfect physical shape despite the fact that they aren't getting any substantial amounts of vitamins or amino acids, nor why some people can eat steak two times a day (thrice on Sunday) and likewise live to be 100 and in perfect physical shape.
PacoSees:
If animals want rights, they can fight me for them, like we Mexicans fought the Spaniards for ours and you white people fought your respective mother countries.
In the meantime, for every animal you intentionally don't eat, I'll eat four different animals.
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