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a pack of wolves:
What he said, with the addition that all of your examples have had the golden rule applied to them as a device for determining a course of action extremely easily.
John Curtin:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 28 Jan 2008, 06:23 ---The abortion example is reductio ad absurdum because we currently have no evidence that a fetus has consciousness or desires, so to argue that one needs to take them into account is getting into cuckoo land.
Please, please don't turn this thread down the abortion path. There be dragons.
--- End quote ---
* 1. I'm not trying to turn this into an abortion debate. It was a demonstrative example and I really don't care what you think about the morality of abortion. If you really want my opinion of what would be the appropriate course of action just ask ok but it's totally irrelevant here.
* 2. Might like to consider that we currently have no evidence that God exists but that didn't stop us discussing that for the majority of the thread. At least we know a fetus probably will have a consciousness sometime in the future if we don't kill it. Surely the golden rule is about the potential happiness that will result from a course of action?
* 3. Let's reject the example and consider the conjoined twins example properly. The only 'extremely easy' answer given was to ask the twins to decide for themselves. Seriously, what the hell. They're newborn babies for a start and thus have no powers of communication, and secondly how is it ethical to ask someone to decide to kill their brother or sister? Are they to use the golden rule? How do they use the golden rule here?
* 4. Once again, i quite like the golden rule.
Jackie Blue:
If you like the Golden Rule, then stop trying to dissect it with extreme situational examples and endless chains of "what if".
"We" have no "evidence" that "God" exists? I'm sorry, I'll tell the billions of people on the planet who have had personal spiritual and/or religious experiences that they don't count since they didn't have them under a microscope.
Compare that to how many people have ever claimed to remember anything before the age of 1 or so.
No offense, but this debate has been stupid for a whole page now. It's gotten to the point of saying something like "Oh, you think murder is bad? Well what about murdering Hitler before he started World War 2, huh?"
In other words, the only thing standing between your arguments and Godwin's Law is a proper noun.
Johnny C:
Ironically, now we've been Godwinned.
Jackie Blue:
Yes, I did that on purpose. I was using Godwin for good, not evil.
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