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BobJoeJim:
I've never really understood the catch-and-release mentality. The key factor here for me is that fresh caught fish is basically the tastiest thing ever. If you can get a trout into a frying pan within ten minutes of the time you end its life then you are in for a fantastic meal. I've never gone fly fishing without the intention of eating what I catch, though of course many of those trips ended with me not keeping anything because all I caught was small little fish without enough meat on them to be worth keeping (or to keep legally).
I haven't been fishing since I snapped my fly rod in half a couple years ago when I tripped and caught the tip of it under a rock, but my dad got it replaced for me for Christmas, and there are some great rivers down here in Southern Oregon, so I am GREATLY looking forward to this coming spring and some tasty tasty trout.
SonofZ3:
--- Quote from: Inlander on 13 Jan 2008, 06:52 ---Personally I'd rather humans had the good sense to start eating something else when the food they like gets so rare that it's difficult to catch and/or prohibitively expensive.
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You're absolutely right, but recreational fishing doesn't put the survival of species into jeopardy. Recreational fishermen want to make sure that those fish are around for a long time. This is why the individuals most instrumental in establishing conservation laws and ethics have been fishermen and hunters. Aldo Leopold and Roosevelt are good examples.
--- Quote from: DonInKansas on 13 Jan 2008, 01:20 ---
--- Quote from: Inlander on 12 Jan 2008, 22:27 ---Not to mention that unless you're fishing with a net, the catching of a fish involved putting a fucking hole in the side of its face.
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QFT
If you're gonna catch and release, you might as well go to a damn aquarium and stare at the fishtank. Fishing, hunting; do it to solidify your place in the food chain and eat what you kill. I would be pissed if a bear mauled my ass and didn't have the common courtesy to use my bleeding carcass to feed itself or it's young.
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Inlander- Fish aren't human beings. A small hole from a small barbless hook (which do not go anywhere near the whole way through the mouth of a fish) and a few seconds out of the water are not the same level of cruelty as torturing a dog or housecat. This is a touchy subject among fisherman though, causing a lot of recent study into whether or not fish have a memory for trauma, and if they do how long it lasts. Some have even claimed that fish do not feel pain in their mouths, as a hooked fish, if no tension is kept on the line, will go back to feeding and acting normally. It is the pull of the line, not the hook, the causes the distress.
DonInKansas- I don't know if you've ever been a part of an organized sport, or if you enjoyed it, but the best way I can describe why just hiking or looking at fish isn't the same thing as fishing is to say this: the difference between looking at fish and fishing is the difference between staring at a football field with gear laying on it (or lacrosse, soccer ect) and actually playing the game. All the same elements are there, it should be just as rewarding right?
--- Quote from: BobJoeJim on 13 Jan 2008, 07:56 ---I've never really understood the catch-and-release mentality. The key factor here for me is that fresh caught fish is basically the tastiest thing ever. If you can get a trout into a frying pan within ten minutes of the time you end its life then you are in for a fantastic meal. I've never gone fly fishing without the intention of eating what I catch, though of course many of those trips ended with me not keeping anything because all I caught was small little fish without enough meat on them to be worth keeping (or to keep legally).
I haven't been fishing since I snapped my fly rod in half a couple years ago when I tripped and caught the tip of it under a rock, but my dad got it replaced for me for Christmas, and there are some great rivers down here in Southern Oregon, so I am GREATLY looking forward to this coming spring and some tasty tasty trout.
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--- Quote from: BobJoeJim on 13 Jan 2008, 07:56 ---I've never really understood the catch-and-release mentality. The key factor here for me is that fresh caught fish is basically the tastiest thing ever. If you can get a trout into a frying pan within ten minutes of the time you end its life then you are in for a fantastic meal. I've never gone fly fishing without the intention of eating what I catch, though of course many of those trips ended with me not keeping anything because all I caught was small little fish without enough meat on them to be worth keeping (or to keep legally).
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I'm the opposite. I Haven't kept a fish Ive caught in 4 or 5 years.
IronOxide:
When I was little, we were at a charity fishing derby at a local pond and we caught the exact same fish over a dozen times. I swear to god.
jhocking:
That is a pretty goddamn stupid fish.
Verergoca:
That, or the wee little Iron-O didnt realize yet that a individuals of a species of fish, look very much alike.
(well, to kids... for me, im afraid i get giddy about the behaviour of specific individuals, with as best example, one of the lumpsuckers i had in the aquarium at school, swimming along, getting caught in the stream of the pump, making a bunch of loops before beeing able to swim out (they arent that agile), and then going "wheee, that was fun!" and swimming into the thing again, to do more loops!)
:-D
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