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Do you like Faye, as a character?
BoisterousFanboy:
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--- Quote from: BoisterousFanboy on 19 Feb 2008, 13:22 ---I like Faye as a character in the comic strip but I don't personally like her. I find her to be bitchy, self-involved, and sociopathic. I can't remember her doing anything nice for Marten or Dora beyond a few small gestures. I understand she's been through some rough times but she needs to take more personal responbility for her life and her actions.
I like that we're seeing her work on herself so maybe this is the start of Faye conquering her issues. She has become a bit of a one-trick pony though and all of the characters (besides Sven) walk on egg shells for fear of upsetting or angering her. Gimmie a break. Sven wacks her with a rolled up magazine. That's tough love right there. Marten and Dora are too patient with her and too quick to pat her on the back and say "there there it's gonna be okay" when she's in a mood. They're too enabling and so she hasn't really changed much over the course of the strip except for a few brief moments of awareness that she's a bitch.
I feel bad for what she's been through but she was an adult when her father comitted suicide. I can't imagine how that must have felt and what that must have been like but she wasn't a young, emotionally developing child. She was 18+ and she should have been able to process and deal with it better.
But even if can't then she needs to take charge of her life and she's doing that with the therapy and the exercising. She's still bitchy but maybe this thing with Sven will calm her down a bit/make her more likeable.
I'm excited to see what happens next.
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More adults are struck by PTSD than children, by an enormous margin. The one person she loved most in her life shot himself in front of her and she never had the opportunity to reconcile or understand what happened. We see the trauma.
She had a complete nervous breakdown and nearly died as a result of it. We see more post-traumatic stress. And more trauma. Which probably compounded the PTSD she already had later on. Just because she was an adult did not make her any better equipped to handle it. What about all the guys who came back from Vietnam crazy due to PTSD? That wasn't just physical trauma, there. That was caused by the horrifying things they saw and experienced. And they were adults, too.
kthx.
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I knew when I made that comment someone was going to take issue with it :-)
I agree with some of what you're saying. I don't know if we can compare this to Vietnam but I see what you're saying and you're right. All I'm saying is that Faye has abandonment/trust/closeness issues and those typically stem from loss or abandonment that occurs during early childhood when the brain and emotional centers are still developing. I say typically because theres exceptions to every rule. And if she has trouble trusting people due to witnessing her father's suicide that's understandable. But the typical psychology would also mandate that she'd be hyper-attracted to abandoning people. She's been through some therapy but it apparently was only enough to make her semi-functional and it's a good thing that she's starting it up again.
I'm just saying that some of the basic psychology seems a bit off but I'm sure a lot of that is due to creative license and/or things we haven't learned yet. Either way I think it's a sign of a well-developed story and character that we all talk about it this much, it shows we think about the strip in a lot more detail then your average slap gag comic.
innermoppet:
--- Quote from: BoisterousFanboy on 19 Feb 2008, 13:22 ---I feel bad for what she's been through but she was an adult when her father comitted suicide. I can't imagine how that must have felt and what that must have been like but she wasn't a young, emotionally developing child. She was 18+ and she should have been able to process and deal with it better.
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I don't know of a single human being in real life, who could just "deal with" their father shooting himself in front of them. I disagree that with the idea that she was not a developing child. 18 is not a magic number that suddenly makes us able to comprehend and deal with life maturely. I work with college students and can assure you, that even at 20 and 21, there are very few of them that would be equipped to handle something so traumatic in a balanced mature way.
I also think that its long been proven that age doesn't make you mature and that the ability to deal with drama, as well as trauma, is more of a character trait than an age trait. Many grown people are self destructive, self involved and crippled by fear and pain. Their age is irrelevent. What matters is how capable they are at dealing with the things they are handed.
thecait:
I love Faye. She's always been my favorite character. I don't get it when people prefer Dora over Faye (like my best friend, who's a guy). Faye's sassful. In some ways there was a little more to her when she was all, "I do not speak in contractions except when trashed because I am trying to over-come my Southern roots and I have major issues because my dad committed suicide," but getting all of that out into the story moved things along...I don't think she's diminished, just changed. As all people do. *shrugs*
the-artful-dodger-rodger:
how about the reason Faye, most of time, smiles is when she has just insalted or inflicted pain on somebody. that one of many reason I dont like as a character.
LizziL:
--- Quote ---So... Love Faye, don't like Dora. Well, I DO like Dora sometimes, but not as a couple with Martin. She's an interesting character, but... Not with Martin.
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Never has someone explained it EXACTLY the way I feel about it. I can't stand the way Dora and Marten got together, and ugh...I just hate how both of them completely disregarded her feelings and hooked up. I mean, in QC time it was fast, and in real time, when I re-read the comics (which I often do when I'm bored), it's insanely fast. Not fair for poor Faye, who I completely love.
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