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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #50 on: 14 Feb 2008, 10:45 »

Exactly!
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #51 on: 14 Feb 2008, 11:08 »

A telecaster will still be practically useless for harder music styles, though. Don't forget that.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #52 on: 14 Feb 2008, 11:47 »

Mostly. I saw someone using a tele in the video for Stone the Crow. Least, it looked like it to me, the quality of the video was low.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #53 on: 14 Feb 2008, 12:03 »

A telecaster will still be practically useless for harder music styles, though. Don't forget that.

What about Unsane? You don't get much heavier than that.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #54 on: 14 Feb 2008, 12:41 »

A telecaster will still be practically useless for harder music styles, though. Don't forget that.

What about Unsane? You don't get much heavier than that.

Pickup changes can do wonders, yes. By "Tele" I always mean the wimpy, single-coil equipped model.

EDIT: Having checked out Unsane on Youtube now, it seems like the dude is using a standard tele. However, the low end heaviness is coming from the bass, and the bass alone.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #55 on: 14 Feb 2008, 14:34 »

Yeah, Lummer is right, the bass is doing all the work there. I like the effect the tele sound adds in there though.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #56 on: 14 Feb 2008, 14:53 »

Lummer is correct - Teles are for wimps, girls and girly wimps.

Humbucker equipped guitars can handle anything from old blues to heavy metal, anyway. I really just do not see the advantage in single coils, ever.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #57 on: 14 Feb 2008, 15:45 »

The entirety of Led Zeppelin I was written and recorded on a Fender Telecaster.

Just thought you Tele-bashing wankers should all know that.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #58 on: 14 Feb 2008, 15:48 »

The entirety of Led Zeppelin I was written and recorded on a Fender Telecaster.

Just thought you Tele-bashing wankers should all know that.

True, but Jimmy Page himself said he thought it sounded like a les paul.

that said, the Tele bashing is always a bit tongue-in-cheek on my part. I realise that many people have used them to great effect, but I just find th eguitar dull and uninspiring, as I do with all standard Fenders.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #59 on: 14 Feb 2008, 16:33 »

Aesthetically? Yes. Tonally? Noooooooooooooooo
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #60 on: 14 Feb 2008, 16:44 »

Aesthetically? Yes. Tonally? Noooooooooooooooo

Tele tones don't do much for me. When it comes to Fenders, Strats are the only thing I like. I don't get the response a Strat gives me from a Tele.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #61 on: 15 Feb 2008, 11:36 »

Lummer is correct - Teles are for wimps, girls and girly wimps.

Humbucker equipped TELECASTERS can handle anything from old blues to heavy metal, anyway. I really just do not see the advantage in single coils, ever.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #62 on: 15 Feb 2008, 12:24 »

The best Tele I've ever heard was a Relic one that was about $3000. Lovely bright sound, just sounded "alive" through and through. But most Teles just sound dry and uninspiring to me.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #63 on: 15 Feb 2008, 13:45 »

Lummer is correct - Teles are for wimps, girls and girly wimps.

Humbucker equipped TELECASTERS can handle anything from old blues to heavy metal, anyway. I really just do not see the advantage in single coils, ever.
Pity the things look like something I might put together in my garage.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #64 on: 15 Feb 2008, 14:34 »

Well, it was kinda thought up in Leo Fender's garage, so uh..
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #65 on: 15 Feb 2008, 15:19 »

'The things'? So this takes in all of the various humbuckered Teles, does it?
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #66 on: 15 Feb 2008, 15:47 »

All that I have seen but one, so yes.

All right, it looks like something I would put together in my garage if I was low on time, there would be much more visual polish otherwise, and I would have some curves on it like the strat does, rather than being completely flat.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #67 on: 15 Feb 2008, 18:16 »

So you're talking about the Tele's shape, rather than the configuration of the humbucker Teles.

Honestly, it was designed in what, the 1950s? Earlier? Everybody was as square as that guitar in the 1950s. I doubt you'd have come up with anything more radical at the time - and if you had have done, it would've sold fuck all anyway.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #68 on: 15 Feb 2008, 18:45 »

Just a few weeks ago I played a gig with my drone/doom/stoner band. I used a Tele (copy) with single coil PUs. I rocked the low end (we don't have a bass player) so god damn hard that half of the audience left the room.

YES, you can do the heavy, low stuff with a "wimpy" Tele.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #69 on: 15 Feb 2008, 18:47 »

What kind of amp were you playing through?
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #70 on: 15 Feb 2008, 19:18 »

So you're talking about the Tele's shape, rather than the configuration of the humbucker Teles.

Honestly, it was designed in what, the 1950s? Earlier? Everybody was as square as that guitar in the 1950s. I doubt you'd have come up with anything more radical at the time - and if you had have done, it would've sold fuck all anyway.
I don't mind the shape so much as the way it usually ends up looking, with the pickguard (which looks like it has had a piece lopped off), and the electronics. I don't like the look of the body shape of a tele as much as I like the shape of a strat or a les paul, but it isn't bad. Also, single pickup guitars never look good, at least that I have seen, they look like they are missing something.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #71 on: 15 Feb 2008, 19:19 »


I have a '76 strat, and it is awesome. and yes I also have a 1917 gibson acoustic.

YOU! Get to the guitar thread with pictures now! I demand proof!
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #72 on: 15 Feb 2008, 23:46 »

I feel the whole tele's suck meme is kinda stupid because they are the perfect fucking guitar
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #73 on: 16 Feb 2008, 08:43 »

What kind of amp were you playing through?


One of these here. Vintage Orange, ca. 1976-78.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #74 on: 16 Feb 2008, 09:27 »

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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #75 on: 16 Feb 2008, 11:27 »

What kind of amp were you playing through?


One of these here. Vintage Orange, ca. 1976-78.

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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #76 on: 16 Feb 2008, 14:30 »

First you say you own an Ampeg SVT in that bass thread you started and now you say you own an Orange.

I am fucking jealous of you.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #77 on: 16 Feb 2008, 18:43 »

Dude, ANYTHING would sound good through an Orange.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #78 on: 16 Feb 2008, 20:59 »

I don't own the ampeg! It just happens to be in my garage! It's not mine, I never said that. but it rocks!

The Orange cost me about 1,400 euros. That's about 2,000,000 dollars, right? ebay is your friend!
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #79 on: 16 Feb 2008, 21:20 »

I am sorry Dom! I thought you meant you owned it! Me and my silly assumptions...

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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #80 on: 16 Feb 2008, 21:28 »

Noooooo! just said i play it. Still fuckin' nice.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #81 on: 16 Feb 2008, 23:09 »

all this talk about telecasters wowza, yall need to chill. its quite obvious i own the best guitar ever made.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #82 on: 17 Feb 2008, 03:31 »

Lummer is correct - Teles are for wimps, girls and girly wimps.

Humbucker equipped guitars can handle anything from old blues to heavy metal, anyway. I really just do not see the advantage in single coils, ever.

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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #83 on: 17 Feb 2008, 03:42 »

depends on what type of humbuckers for surf, im sure if you got some that you could split (into single coil) you could actually do anything.

dont carvin C22s do that?

but those pickups arent that great for much anyway.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #84 on: 17 Feb 2008, 03:51 »

Split humbuckers never really get you the real thing.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #85 on: 17 Feb 2008, 05:19 »

Guys just buy a goddamn Eastwood, they're relatively inexpensive, extremely playable, and so versatile that they really are good for everything you could want.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #86 on: 17 Feb 2008, 06:28 »

However, I will add to this, most Pink Floyd was also recorded on a tele as far as I know.

Untrue - Syd recorded most of his stuff on an Esquire - essentially a Tele with only one pickup - and while Gilmour did record with Teles quite often, especially in the early days, he used mostly Strats.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #87 on: 17 Feb 2008, 10:05 »

See, Pat, problem with that is how I don't know any stores that carry them, and I don't want to buy a guitar that I haven't had a chance to actually play, even if I know the quality for certain, I want to know I like the feel of it.
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« Reply #88 on: 17 Feb 2008, 10:58 »

I started off learning songs that I liked listening too. I don't know any of the notes in the scales that I play, but I know the patterns my fingers move. You don't have to be classicly trained. It helps. I played trumpet since 4th grade (19 now) so I can say a general knowledge of beats and measures and signatures help in the long run.

The easiest thing is to just play. Anything. Even if your just noodling around and playing things that sound like crap. That happens. It always will. Just find scales you like playing and always go back and play along with songs you like listening to. Music should be an organic thing.

Yeah. Just play.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #89 on: 18 Feb 2008, 09:58 »

Hey so I'm thinking of learning the guitar soon too. Everyone tells me I should buy an acoustic guitar first for a variety of reasons, but in all honesty I'd rather be learning to play the electric guitar. Is it really important to get an acoustic first? I understand that I would need an amp for an electric guitar and that it would generally be more complicated than an acoustic (or at least I've been lead to believe that) and I'm not too worried about it.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #90 on: 18 Feb 2008, 10:02 »

Well, I played an acoustic for lessons at school, then I got an electric and started taking private lessons. I have a hard time strumming on an acoustic, I need to work a lot more on my picking technique, the thinner strings on the electric got me lazy, I only remember to hold my pick right when I have to play triplets. I would say, though, that if you have songs you want to learn that are pretty much only electric songs, get an electric, playing songs you like is the most important thing to keep you going.
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #91 on: 18 Feb 2008, 22:00 »

Hey so I'm thinking of learning the guitar soon too. Everyone tells me I should buy an acoustic guitar first for a variety of reasons, but in all honesty I'd rather be learning to play the electric guitar. Is it really important to get an acoustic first? I understand that I would need an amp for an electric guitar and that it would generally be more complicated than an acoustic (or at least I've been lead to believe that) and I'm not too worried about it.

Nope, it's not important at all which you start on. Pick the one you'd rather play, because you will play it more. No use picking up an instrument you're not really into.
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« Reply #92 on: 19 Feb 2008, 01:59 »

The thing about starting on an acoustic is that the difference in styles between most electric guitar music and most acoustic guitar music is SO VAST that it'd almost be like re-teaching yourself everything. The only thing that remains the same is that you've got fingers on the fretboard and a pick in the other hand.
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« Reply #93 on: 19 Feb 2008, 02:13 »

The thing about starting on an acoustic is that the difference in styles between most electric guitar music and most acoustic guitar music is SO VAST that it'd almost be like re-teaching yourself everything. The only thing that remains the same is that you've got fingers on the fretboard and a pick in the other hand.

Wait, what?
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Re: Learning to Play Guitar
« Reply #94 on: 19 Feb 2008, 05:03 »

Unless its the blues your talking about. Alot of blues riffs can just be taken straight from the acoustic to the electric and vice versa. Although i do agree that there is a rather large difference in what you can play on the different instruments.
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« Reply #95 on: 19 Feb 2008, 09:42 »

Well what I've been told is that learning on an electric guitar first would build poor habits, and if I end up really liking the guitar (this is a strong possibility) then I would eventually pick up the other kind (acoustic or electric depending on what I start with). I wouldn't want to be set really far back if I were to pick up the acoustic at a later date. Should I be concerned?
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« Reply #96 on: 19 Feb 2008, 09:49 »

I would always suggest starting on acoustic because it makes your fingers stronger, makes your strumming stronger and it's a lot easier from acoustic to electric than it is going from electric to acoustic. Plus, you're freed up if you want to get creative quicker. There aren't a great deal of classic songs written with just a singer and his heavy metal guitar, but there are thousands of one-man-and-his-strummer.
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« Reply #97 on: 19 Feb 2008, 10:01 »

I'm working on the former. Someone on here commissioned a one man black metal album with a baseball theme.
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« Reply #98 on: 19 Feb 2008, 21:20 »

I've honestly never had any problems transferring across from acoustic to electric or vise versa. Unless your trying to, say, sweep or shred on an acoustic - but if you're just starting that won't be a problem for a long long time (if ever).
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« Reply #99 on: 20 Feb 2008, 09:17 »

Lucky for some, but playing acoustic and playing electric are very different things. Sometimes having an instinct for it means you don't notice the differences and nuances when you do it, but they really are different.
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