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Some Stupid Asshole Invented A Taser Shotgun
Something Witty:
All of you people talking about "respect for human life" are forgetting that the person robbing/raping/mugging you doesn't have any of that, because if they did, you wouldn't be getting robbed/raped/mugged.
Furthermore, you don't draw a gun and aim it at someone as a deterrent. That's called "escalating the situation," and will get you arrested, your gun license taken away, and quite possibly thrown in jail for a while. You draw a gun as a last resort, and only if you intend to use it. It seems that some of you think that people who carry concealed are going to draw at the drop of a hat and wave their gun around in an effort to intimidate people into leaving them alone, when that would be an incredibly stupid thing to do. Let me say it again, you only draw your gun if you intend to use it, and only as a last resort.
As for your target being a living breathing human being? Nope. Sorry. As soon as the target(No longer a person, at this point) puts my life in danger, they forfeit the right to theirs. You say they have the right to live, but if they are impeding my right to live, why should I honor theirs? The answer is: I shouldn't.
I'm not trying to say I wouldn't feel awful about it immediately afterwards, and for a long time. I'm saying that I will do what I have to do to stay alive. And you know what? If they're "so desperate that they HAVE to rob someone so they can live," then they're stupid. Not stupid because they got into the situation, but stupid because of they way they've chosen to resolve it.
I'm actually done with this thread, this time. Honest.
öde:
--- Quote from: Something Witty on 15 Feb 2008, 11:10 ---All of you people talking about "respect for human life" are forgetting that the person robbing/raping/mugging you doesn't have any of that, because if they did, you wouldn't be getting robbed/raped/mugged.
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So? I still have my morality and I'm not going to give it up.
schimmy:
Sox's last post pretty thoroughly showed the problem with making points like that, anyway.
I think it's horrific that you are capable of thinking of people in any terms other than as people. Sure, you have a very real right to defend yourself, but their right to not be killed is as important as yours.
People breaking the law still have basic human rights, you know.
KharBevNor:
Dude, if I truly had no respect for human life, and I wanted to rob you, and I was prepared to kill you, I would simply shoot you in the head and then rob your corpse. The fact that I have not would imply that I have maybe some reservations about casual murder, right?
Sox:
--- Quote from: Something Witty on 15 Feb 2008, 11:10 ---As for your target being a living breathing human being? Nope. Sorry. As soon as the target(No longer a person, at this point) puts my life in danger, they forfeit the right to theirs. You say they have the right to live, but if they are impeding my right to live, why should I honor theirs? The answer is: I shouldn't.
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Please, don't leave this discussion. You're one of the few people arguing for the guns that's making points I can get behind. Your second paragraph inparticular shows you to be a very sensible person. The part I've quoted however, is something that I can not get behind. A person driving drunk is putting my life in danger, but that doesn't mean they have forfeit their right to live.
There's a difference between and act of recklessness and an act of aggression, and as I've previously stated, I believe that an event such as a robbery could be either of the two, so I don't get to make that call.
Other examples, such as rape, are a VERY different topic, and for the sake of keeping this discussion as simple as we can so as to prevent it from becoming overwhelming, we should discuss it another time.
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 15 Feb 2008, 11:31 ---Dude, if I truly had no respect for human life, and I wanted to rob you, and I was prepared to kill you, I would simply shoot you in the head and then rob your corpse. The fact that I have not would imply that I have maybe some reservations about casual murder, right?
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--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 15 Feb 2008, 11:31 ---Dude, if I truly had no respect for human life, and I wanted to rob you, and I was prepared to kill you, I would simply shoot you in the head and then rob your corpse. The fact that I have not would imply that I have maybe some reservations about casual murder, right?
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It's possible that you have a higher value on bullets than the life of the person you're aiming at.
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