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dennis:

--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 12 Feb 2008, 18:13 ---I think the idea is actually more along the lines of lowest-common-denominator thinking. Like how a lot of police forces use Glocks because there is no safety other than one that is de-activated while pulling the trigger. Which, incidentally, can get set off if you get a shirt tail or something stuck in the trigger guard. And how some lockable doors will unlock when the knob is turned from the inside, in case someone is unable to remember how to turn a fucking lock. I have actually seen some of those that will unlock from both sides with the knob turn, which makes me wonder: What is the point?

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Actually, Glocks have three interlocking safety mechanisms, which is two more than traditional handgun design. Glocks are designed such that they will only fire if the trigger is deliberately pulled, which is actually a very good design for police work, since police have uniforms with tucked in shirttails and holsters. If you're going to stick a gun in your waistband--rare, extenuating circumstances aside--you're too stupid to own one. Additionally, the chance that something will happen to wrap around the trigger just right to disable the safeties and pull the trigger while the gun has a round in the chamber is less than the chance that someone will forget to check the manual safety on their gun and either fire it accidentally, or be unable to fire it when they need to.

And doors with interlocked handles are a convenience for door one-way doors that need to stay locked from the outside, like private offices fronting on public areas. As for doors that unlock with a handle on both sides, I've never seen one, but I can imagine that the lock on the door has different settings depending on how the key is turned.

clockworkjames:
Dennis the spikes in the front end would mean no need for wires though innit.

Nice double post.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: dennis on 13 Feb 2008, 15:45 --- the chance that someone will forget to check the manual safety on their gun and either fire it accidentally, or be unable to fire it when they need to.

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When I learned to use a gun I spent like, a month learning to load it, unload it, make safe, check it, use the safety, clear a jam and strip and clean the whole weapon before I was allowed to look at a bullet. I thought this was like, the utmost basic of firearm safety.

Wait, I suppose in America it technically isn't required for you to actually know anything about firearm safety to own a gun is it?

Damn.

calenlass:
Nope! You just gotta wait a week. So that proves you got patience or somthin.

Nodaisho:
The waiting period depends on the state.

The problem with the requirements for owning one is that it can very easily become ridiculous. In Australia, it takes about six months and several hundred dollars (other than the cost of the gun), even more if, for some reason, you don't shoot well when you probably haven't ever shot before.

I don't know how many safeties are on the glock, but I do know that they all get disabled when you pull the trigger. When someone gets startled, if their finger is on the trigger, they exert more than enough force to pull the trigger, I have heard of police exams where you have to keep your gun on a target for a long period of time, but partway through, the examiner comes up behind you and fires a blank, a lot of people end up shooting that target. Just imagine what would happen if you shot someone because a car backfired.

Like I said, lowest common denominator, if you are going to carry around a gun, you should be instinctively able to operate everything on it, in the dark, one handed, whatever. Your life could very well depend on it. Even if you aren't carrying it, you should know the gun that well, though you really shouldn't be shooting in the dark for fun, seems like a bad idea.

Normal guns only have one safety? The 1911 has a grip safety, a manual safety, and some companies use a firing pin block safety, although even without one, the gun usually has to be dropped quite a ways directly on the barrel to go off. Besides, you should have the hammer back and safety on, either that or safety off, hammer down on an empty chamber. Those are the two safest ways, while hammer down on a loaded chamber can work, it isn't as safe.

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