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Chrasstor:

--- Quote ---Notre Dame Elementary shooting    Portsmouth, Ohio, United States    February 7, 2008
Louisiana Technical College shooting    Baton Rouge, LA, United States    February 8, 2008
Mitchell High School shooting    Memphis, TN, United States    February 11, 2008
E.O. Green Junior High School shooting    Oxnard, CA, United States    February 12, 2008
McNair High School shooting    Atlanta, GA, United States    February 12, 2008   
Northern Illinois University shooting    DeKalb, Illinois, United States    February 14, 2008
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Looking over that shit I posted... Notice anything a bit strange? That's almost a shoot-out every other day this month. I'm wondering if this is really true.

Trollstormur:
Sad, sad state of things.


--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 14 Feb 2008, 16:14 ---It's a lot easier to get a hold of a gun nowadays than it was way back when.
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I'm sorry, but i'm going to have to call bullshit on that. Guns are more restricted right now than they ever were in america. You've never seen the old catalogs where you could buy a german submachinegun for seventeen dollars delivered straight to your home.



Also i'm not turning this into a gun control debate. I'll be deleting and/or editing any posts to this effect.

pen:
Jesus christ.  My thoughts go to all those affected.   :-(

Lines:

--- Quote from: pen on 14 Feb 2008, 16:50 ---Jesus christ.  My thoughts go to all those affected.   :-(

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Ditto. I don't really get why these things happen, but if anyone knows anyone who was in that situation, I hope they are all okay.

Sox:

--- Quote from: Trollstormur on 14 Feb 2008, 16:39 ---I'm sorry, but i'm going to have to call bullshit on that. Guns are more restricted right now than they ever were in america. You've never seen the old catalogs where you could buy a german submachinegun for seventeen dollars delivered straight to your home.
Also i'm not turning this into a gun control debate. I'll be deleting and/or editing any posts to this effect.

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You already turned this into a gun control debate. It's highly relevant, and I'm sure that most people here are mature enough to handle it.
There are a LOT more guns available now than there were back then. This is alone means it is easier to obtain a gun, even if it's unregistered or stolen. The fact is that it is still far too easy to obtain a gun in the US. If I wanted to buy a gun where I lived, it would be impossible unless I wanted to own it illegally. Even then, the likelihood of me being able to obtain a gun is close to zero. Just about anybody with a clean record in the US can obtain a gun rather easily, and the supposed background checks aren't always carried out. The background checks  mean that you can't get a gun if you have a serious criminal offense on record, is this correct? None of these kids are going to have any serious offenses, and I have my doubts that a reliable mental background check is carried out when one wishes to purchase a gun in the United States. The fact is that lax gun control laws in the US are allowing these crimes to take place.
You live in a country where far too many people are completely paranoid and sleep with guns under their pillows. Obtaining a gun in the US is easy. You just have to want a gun.

My sympathies to anybody who was affected by this tragedy. My heart goes out to the victims.

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