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Shadows Collide:
Has anyone here seen the film Samurai Cop?? If so please comment (I am desperate to but its darn hard to find you see)
BootsyMarie:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 19 Feb 2008, 04:46 ---
Eh? If you're watching movies like The Crow for the dialogue you're probably doing something wrong. The dialogue in the Crow isn't particularly awful anyway. There's a few bits that are even good, I always liked the bit with the Milton quote. Oh, and pretty much everything Top Dollar says, because he's so fucking over the top. Which is really the point of The Crow. It's very over the top. It revels in being completely fucking over the top. That's one of the major changes from the comic (the other being that Eric isn't quite so utterly, frothingly insane in the film*), which was quite gritty and realistic. But I rather think the studios balked out at the idea of a guy in pure white make-up slaughtering a load of black crack dealers, which is why they re-invented Top Dollar and his gang as some sort of insane goth mafia. Then they made Eric a rock musician (He's some sort of not that well off white collar worker in the comic). Then they turned everything up a few more notches, and it works. If you don't get it, that's fine, but to blame the movies popularity on 'Hot Topic' is ridiculous. I've never even seen a Hot Topic store in my life, and you don't have to wear black to like it. It's a solid action flick with bucketloads of style.
*I kinda wish they'd had some of that sort of dialogue in the film though "I AM PILOT ERROR! I AM FOETAL DISTRESS! I AM MORPHINE FOR A WOODEN LEG!"
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You seem to be taking a lot of offense at this. I am very glad you've never been to a Hot Topic, take solace in that, but the young, gothy pre-teens are probably the largest majority of people who've ever even heard of that trash. I don't doubt that you could have possibly heard of The Crow otherwise, I'm saying it's popularity is almost entirely based on how many T-shirts Hot Topic managed to sell.
By the way, I never said you have to wear black to like it. I'm saying the kids that think it's totally cool to wear lots of black and too much eyeliner LOVE it because of Eric Draven's tragic love, and goofy make-up.
I don't want to be crucified.
I just thought it was an awful movie. Half-assed dialogue, half-assed actors, half-assed action, half-assed plot.
That's my opinion, not a personal attack on anyone here.
Would I have done good if I threw out Spice World?
Spice World, sucks, right? We hate the Spice Girls cause they can't act...or sing?
Or is that just another superficial explanation for why the movie got popular because I have piss poor taste in movies, or something to that extent...? =P
frunK:
KRAA! The Sea Monster. It's a family channel godzilla. There's one scene where the monster is stomping around the obvious made from painted plywood buildings and the camera switches and Kraa litterally bursts out of a building. No idea how he got in it, or what happened to the interior, but gods damn it if it wasn't funny as hell.
Also Afro Whores Volume 14. Me and my buddy were rehearsing our metal band and his wacky ex-punk dad(I swear the guy is a character in a bad sitcom) busts into the room with a dusty VHS tape in hand and yells overtop our song. "HEY GUYS LOOK WHAT I FOUND IN THE BASEMENT! AFRO-WHORES 14!"
So we grab a few beers and pop it in, it was the worst porn ever. I mean some of these chicks are obviously off the street, and there was cheesy camera tricks, like where the scene switches via a big blocky star zooming into the screen. 0_0'
Alex C:
--- Quote from: BootsyMarie on 21 Feb 2008, 17:55 ---
You seem to be taking a lot of offense at this. I am very glad you've never been to a Hot Topic, but the young, gothy pre-teens are probably the largest majority of people who've ever even heard of that trash. I don't doubt that you could have possibly heard of The Crow otherwise, I'm saying it's popularity is solely based on how many T-shirts Hot Topic managed to sell.
By the way, I never said you have to wear black to like it. I'm saying the kids that think it's totally cool to wear lots of black and too much eyeliner LOVE it for that sole purpose.
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See, what people are taking offense to is your tone. You're coming across as someone who is playing at being even-handed despite making dismissive, sweeping generalizations combined with implications that to like the movie is to be associated with a group you appear to have a bias against. The impression I end up being left with is that you're either blissfully unaware of the implications of your communication style or else you're just rather stubborn and willfully inconsiderate. Beyond that, Khar simply takes issue when people say things that are quite frankly wrong. The movie did rather well; it was popular outside of the goth set and garnered many favorable reviews. It's actually one of the movies along with Batman that slowly yet inexorably led to stylish comic book features being greenlit for movie production again. None of that is enough to "prove" that it's a good movie or anything, but it does make your contention that mall goths are wholly responsible for its continued popularity rather absurd. Everything else you said about the film's actual quality doesn't particularly bother me.
BootsyMarie:
Well then, my apologies for coming off as snide, or condescending, if that is the impression you were getting.
I was simply putting my own personal reasons for disliking the film. In my opinion, I think the movie does well NOW because of a particular scene that I dislike worships it so.
I never suggested anyone was wrong, only that I completely disagree.
We're all being a bit confrontational, no?
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