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Liz:
Well, he's changed his AIM status since last night, so he was at least alive not long ago.

Liz:
Nope, it's currently "Sup."

If he doesn't log in within the next couple days I will get worried.

jhocking:
KimJongSick has joined

KimJongSick is now dead

dead:...

bbqrocks:
guiz stop teh ded jokes  :-(

kkthxbai

KvP:
Alright, I'll walk through this one.

--- Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 18 Feb 2008, 00:59 ---
--- Quote from: RedLion on 17 Feb 2008, 18:50 --- But while Turkey has in the past sought to stifle the Kurds' sense of self, they've never engaged in slaughter or physical repression of them, while the Kurds have been massacring Turks for decades. Sorry, but I don't think the Kurds have a case in this one.

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So you would support an Armenian state, then?
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Turkey has slaughtered and repressed the Armenians in the past. You're saying that the reason Kosovo has a right to independence is because they've been oppressed by the Serbians, and the reason the Kurds don't is because they haven't been oppressed by the Turks. Thus, that huge swath of land called "Armenia" must have a legitimate claim to break away from Turkey.


--- Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 18 Feb 2008, 00:59 ---Or a Kurdish state within Iraq?
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The Kurds as a minority have been oppressed by Saddam for decades in Iraq. Indeed, the best chance the Kurds have for a state is in the northern regions of Iraq (the tri-partition plan had this in mind) the problem with this is that Turkey will get all up in its shit if it goes forward, because either all their ethnic Kurds will migrate next door, or more than likely, they won't move, but will begin a push to have the Eastern regions of Turkey assimilated into the new Kurdistan.


--- Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 18 Feb 2008, 00:59 ---Do you support Israel? Your support of Turkey's "territorial integrity" wouldn't make much sense otherwise.
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In your earlier post you stated that Turkey doesn't deserve to be broken apart because they've been beset by separatists. Israel is in the same position.

The point is that if you really believe what you're saying you'll either stay consistent or present clear differences between these examples that allow you to come to different conclusions.

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