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Toy Story 3
sandysmilinstrange:
This might have been the first non-disappointing movie that I've seen this whole summer. Wow.
Lotso the bear seemed a little bit like another version of the Prospector from 2 (key difference being Prospector was scared of kids and was only going by what he's heard while Lotso had experienced that betrayal firsthand). They were both spewing the same half-truth to manipulate the people around them, but the scale on which they were doing so was very different. Pixar worship is crazy sometime, but man. It is not undeserved.
I cried and I laughed and I cried and so on. That. Was. Amazing.
Orbert:
Yeah, when Lotso first came on screen, I thought he was pretty cool, then something about how he was behaving reminded me of Stinky Pete, and I thought "He's gonna turn out to be a bad guy." But that didn't diminish the effect when it unfolded.
sandysmilinstrange:
Man, no way did it diminish the effect! I don't care what anybody says. Whether or not I "called" something doesn't change the fact that I was still relieved/appalled/touched when it happened. A good story can do that.
Cartilage Head:
Pixar loves having their villains originally be regular or cool (usually old) dudes that end up being bad. Lotso, Stinky Pete, Charles Muntz, and Auto all fall into this category.
Orbert:
True. But to be fair, it's a pretty common thing in movies. If you're gonna have a bad guy, either they start off good or maybe neutral, or they're bad to begin with. I think it's worse when some character is introduced who's obviously the bad guy, because then you're basically waiting for him to pull some shit about 3/4 of the way through, when everything seems to be going fine. Then he does something dastardly and you say (sarcastically) "Oh, I didn't see that coming". On the other hand, that's still better than someone who's been a good guy the whole way suddenly turning 180 because of something having to do with his mom/dad/brother/whoever who was never even mentioned before. That's just cheap.
And in the case of Lotso, it was actually a double-twist or something. They'd saved his ass, he seemed grateful, and I actually thought he was gonna turn out okay, like he'd seen the light or something, and then he still left them to die. It was pure spite at that point; he didn't even have a reason other than he was an asshole. Stinky Pete at least had something like a rationale for wanting to stay in the box and retain his collector's value.
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