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Tropic Thunder
Dimmukane:
So far, it seems to be getting a lot of praise in advance screenings. I wouldn't write this off just yet.
Tom:
Jack Black's character seems to largely be a parody of comedians like Eddie Murphy.
Nodaisho:
I think Downey has guts taking the role, it could cause trouble for his career, though I have to say the makeup is well-done, I would not have recognized him at all.
Ikrik, how does people not getting offended by black people dressing up as white not apply? Is it because there wasn't a history of it being done as oppression? I don't care about someone dressing up in whiteface.
Now, this is coming from someone born in '91, I can't remember the riots in L.A., for the longest time I thought racism pretty much ended when MLK was killed, that was as far as we took the subject in elementary school. But still, some of the things that are called racism seem pretty stupid to me. A while back, some rapper or another, a previous felon, was caught having a friend buy machine guns for him, which is against the law (called a straw purchase). On top of that, the rapper was not allowed to own any guns, much less machine guns, due to his criminal record, but of course, since he was black, it was decried as racism by... one of the usual suspects, leaning towards Jackson, but it has been a while.
I am sure there is real racism still about, but it isn't nearly as rampant as some people seem to insist, when I saw Resident Evil 5's trailer, know what I saw? Not the lone mighty white hero shooting a bunch of evil black guys, I saw the hero shooting a bunch of zombies. Do I have a problem, or is that how it should be?
I don't know if I will see this, that head things was pretty damn disgusting, but I don't see racism there, what I do see is the blackface surgery getting addressed in the movie.
Thlayli:
As someone who was born in '91, you probably haven't been exposed to the classic anti-black bigotry. You're right about that. But to not know anything about the history of blackface is supremely ignorant, and frankly it confirms peoples' opinions about your generation.
The biggest problem with movies like this is that they don't leave well enough alone. They just keep digging at old wounds, keeping the hate and ignorance alive. Without all the racist stereotypes, this would have been a nearly watchable movie... but it never would have been greenlit.
Nodaisho:
Whoa, Thlayli, slow down before you hit that windmill. I never said I didn't know the history of blackface, I merely said that by the time I was anywhere near comprehending of current events, it was all over except for the shouting.
I see it as more of a mockery of racial stereotypes, with downey's character trying to stay in character, but seeming like a complete dumbass, noticeably different than the actual black guy in the movie. It is more like Samuel L Jackson in whiteface playing a character that got whiteface for a movie and is acting like the worst stereotypes of a redneck.
It may just be because you are new, so we don't know you, but you seem to take offense far too easily.
edit: I am not saying there is no racism these days, but I am saying that it is very rare, and most of what I hear accused of racism (even worse when I was in highschool) is nothing of the kind, which would certainly make someone less likely to take heed when there is something real going on.
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