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WriterofAllWrongs:
Hey guys, you know the dude isn't in blackface, right?  Blackface was used by whites to look like and subsequently parody the stereotypes of black folk.  The guy in the movie is a parody of pretentious method actors who go to absurd lengths to "be" the character, and therefore the so-called "blackface" is only a device to skewer such actors.  Most of whom are probably white. 

So yeah, Thlayli.  Nice job.

Also, I'm on the fence about this movie.  It looks like it could be stupid, amateur and reuse jokes from any other movie featuring Jack Black OR it could be very funny and another fun movie by Ben Stiller.  We shall see.

De_El:

--- Quote from: Inlander on 13 Jul 2008, 23:01 ---Actually, I'm given to understand that Japan can be quite a racist country, but that it doesn't come up as an issue much but because the country is so homogenised.

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Racism on the part of the Japanese is kind of hard to figure because it's definitely racism and they definitely have negative stereotypes of other ethnicities on a specific basis (like black people, as evidenced), but a big part of it is also definitely xenophobia, reinforced by the nature of Japan's geography and various cultural things, like the myth of Amaterasu and the Tokugawa shogunate. It's not like the prejudice is limited to one particular group.

Basically what I trying to figure out how to say is that although racism is pretty prevalent in Japan, I'm not sure if it's fair to blame them because they might not know any better.

est:

--- Quote from: WriterofAllWrongs on 14 Jul 2008, 19:54 ---Hey guys, you know the dude isn't in blackface, right?  Blackface was used by whites to look like and subsequently parody the stereotypes of black folk.  The guy in the movie is a parody of pretentious method actors who go to absurd lengths to "be" the character, and therefore the so-called "blackface" is only a device to skewer such actors.  Most of whom are probably white.
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I was going to say something like this, but then he said it instead.

RDJ isn't donning tanning make-up to pretend to be a bad-ass black dude in an action movie, he is playing a moronic method actor donning black make-up to yadda fucking etcetera.  The point is that such an action is fucking ridiculous.

RobbieOC:

--- Quote from: De_El on 14 Jul 2008, 19:58 ---Basically what I trying to figure out how to say is that although racism is pretty prevalent in Japan, I'm not sure if it's fair to blame them because they might not know any better.

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And really, the young people in Japan, a lot like the young people in America (and I would imagine most places) are pretty much past the whole race issue. When I was an exchange student in Ibaraki, I spent tons of time with Chinese and Korean students and none of them ever expressed any sort of negative experiences or reactions regarding the Japanese students, and vice versa. They actually all got along really well. And, Ibaraki is kind of the country, so it's a little behind the times compared to Tokyo or Kyoto or wherever else.

There might be some racial tension from older people, but as Japan gets more and more integrated, and the people in leadership are younger and younger, the xenophobia and racial tensions really are starting to go away. At least, from everything I saw while I was there.

E. Spaceman:
Gaijin

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