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a pack of wolves:

--- Quote from: Spluff on 09 Mar 2008, 06:45 ---If I go to see a musician and instead, they rant about politics, I will be pissed off.
Likewise, if I go to a political debate and they whip out a guitar and play music, I will be pissed off.

I'm fine with people expressing their political views in a song (if thats what gives them inspiration and passion, then all the better) - if the musics good, I don't give a fuck what they're singing about. But giving speeches about your beliefs or doing other stupid political stunts is going too far, imo. If I you want people to listen to you rant about politics, become a politician. People are listening to you for your music, not because of your political stance.

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You might not be interested in what they have to say about politics but some people are. Personally I don't think gigs have to be limited to just musical events. I think theatre, spoken word, visual displays etc are all perfectly acceptable, and that includes talking about politics. Some things can be incorporated into song lyrics and how those songs are recorded, released and performed live but other things don't come across well like that and it can be good to provide a little explanation. I love it when bands do that, tell you a little about what a song or their music in general is about when they're playing or in the liner notes. And speaking for myself I have no desire whatsoever to become a politician but my music is a means by which I express my political beliefs and I don't see anything wrong with talking about these things when I'm playing a gig. If you don't want to hear that's fine, go listen to some other band, but I don't think it's taking things too far at all.

E. Spaceman:
Bjork and China: She is right but I also agree with Hat, on the other hand, Elf has to eat

Billie Joe Armstrong: Sadly, I must say that my experience with most US Citizens proves him right, it's amazing how people can work homophobia and racism in conversations about their wireless internet. Now, clearly it's not everyone, i've met a huge amount of awesome people from the US, but based from 4 years ago, I do think that at least 50.7% of them are idiots.

Patrick:
Whether or not Billie Joe is correct in his scathing reviews of Americans as a whole, it doesn't make him any less annoying for going around crying "sheeple". I have always hated people who do that.

Nodaisho:

--- Quote from: MadassAlex on 09 Mar 2008, 06:54 ---Megadeth?

Megadeth.

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New Megadeth at least, I vote we hit Mustaine upside the head with the lyrics to Holy Wars and Peace Sells until he gets the right idea again.

Spluff:
Some of the lyrics on RiP were pretty ridiculous (seriously, 'retrograde them'?) but they seemed to result in better music - so by all means, go ahead.


--- Quote from: a pack of wolves on 09 Mar 2008, 10:59 ---If you don't want to hear that's fine, go listen to some other band.
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But that's the thing. It's not advertised on the posters as "3 hours of pure rock - and then 30 minutes of us pushing our political beliefs down your throat!". If the public was informed beforehand, then by all means go ahead - if you knew and you went, then you have no cause to complain. It's when they use a concert which is 95% full of people who just came to listen to their music to talk about politics that annoys me.

I don't see why it's so hard to separate the two - have a gig for music, and then another event where you can stand around and talk about your beliefs for a while. That way people only see what they want to see - and they know what they're getting into.

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